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Old 06-22-2011, 06:17 PM   #1
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Smile starting completely from scratch


Starting from what I would think is completely from scratch, maybe worse. A friend set up this computer on unix/linux when I expressed interest. Truthfully I don't have even the slightest clue where to start other than to offer my complete humility. If I could start with getting my dvd and cd functions to work that would be a good start.
 
Old 06-22-2011, 06:44 PM   #2
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Welcome to LQ! Hope you find it as helpful as I have ...

Saying 'my friend installed linux' is like saying 'my friend gave me candy', There are many flavors and kinds ... If you know the kind of linux that would be helpful (Names such as Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, CentOS, Fedora, Redhat to name a few) ...
and what version # (Example: I am using Ubuntu 11.04) ...
If you know what Desktop manager you are using, that would also help get you info (Some managers are GNOME, Xfce, Unity, Fluxbox)

You can open Terminal (Usually found on the desktop, or under ACCESSORIES .. It may be called Xterm, or Gnometerminal, or something like that) and type:
Code:
uname -a
Hit enter and you should get something that looks like:
Code:
$ uname -a
Linux hevithan-LifeBook-S6240 2.6.35-28-generic #50-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 18 19:00:26 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
Post what you get.

Getting DVDs to play involves (at the base) getting the Libdvdcss from the repo's ... Which will vary depending on what you have installed. it may take more, or less, work depending on what is installed in your default setup.

Good luck!

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Old 06-22-2011, 07:06 PM   #3
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O.K., we understand that you're starting from scratch, but there are a few things more than that fact that you'll need to tell us before we can help.

Most modern distribution will automatically recognize and set up DVD and CD drives, and most needed drivers are in the OS, so those should be running "out of the box," but you need to tell us which "box" your system came "out of," and what type of "real" box you're attempting to get it running on.

In other words, do you know the name of the Linux distribution your "friend" installed for you? (And what kind of "friend" would set you up and then walk away? - But that's not too germane to your current problem.)

Also, can you tell us what hardware (computer make and model, memory installed, hard drive capacity, video system - card and driver, and your DVD/CD specifications) on which you're running that distribution? Since you posted from a Linux system, I assume that you have a working Internet connection. If that's not the case, let us know because many suggestions will involve you downloading and installing (free) applications from various Internet sites.

Further, can you tell us why you think your DVD and/or CD drive(s) are not working? What did you try, and what happened when you tried that? What did you expect to happen? (Specifically, many US-based distributions will not support MPEG sound encoded CDs and video DVD movie display because the protocols needed to use those types of media are protected by copyright or patent in the US. If that's what you're trying to do, a non-US based distribution might be a better choice for you. I.e. - The EU, in many cases, neither recognizes nor enforces protocol copyrights or patents.)

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Old 06-22-2011, 09:01 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by phatdaddi View Post
Starting from what I would think is completely from scratch, maybe worse. A friend set up this computer on unix/linux when I expressed interest. Truthfully I don't have even the slightest clue where to start other than to offer my complete humility. If I could start with getting my dvd and cd functions to work that would be a good start.
Haha!! Cool! I am in the exact same boat as u phatdaddi. I'v installed Ubuntu 10.4 on virtual machine and now I can't figure out how to do anything. So I'm gonna grab onto your coat tail and follow right along if you don't mind.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 01:29 PM   #5
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Thank you for your responses and patience with my being a newbie I'm recovering from a serious head injury. My 'friend' is a genius/basketcase who volunteers a couple days a week with me. He means well conversationally tangents easily and obviously leaves ends loose. I need to obsess over something and am fairly confident I can intellectually bludgeon my way thru this. The fact that people with extensive experience with unix/linux even bother consulting newbies is what draws me to this community.
20phileagles you are are welcome to follow.
When I put a CD or DVD into the carrier? Drawer? nothing at all comes up on the screen.
I do not know what hardware in on this, it is an IBM thinkpad...If I am too far gone information wise, or forum conduct(or uncoolness) please let me know so I can shrink away in anonymous humility back to reading philosophy I don't get either.

I figured out how to clear bash-4.1 from the terminal and on entering uname -a get the following
Linux gonzo 2.6.33.4-smp #2 SMP Wed May12 22:47:36 CDT 2010 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1400MHz GenuineIntel GNU/linux
bash-4.1#
 
Old 06-23-2011, 02:01 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by phatdaddi View Post
I do not know what hardware in on this, it is an IBM thinkpad...If I am too far gone information wise, or forum conduct(or uncoolness) please let me know so I can shrink away in anonymous humility back to reading philosophy I don't get either.
I'm pretty new at this as well (I have picked up a couple things from reading and posting here at LQ though) and know the struggle it takes to get it all up and going the first time ... You shouldn't have to shrink away anywhere, Everyone has been there at some point ... So to the point:

Finding your hardware (or any other info) with Linux is as simple as knowing how to ask it. open terminal and type
Code:
lshw
and it will list hardware on your machine, you will be looking for something like this:
Code:
*-cdrom
                description: DVD-RAM writer
                product: DVD-RAM UJ-841S
                vendor: MATSHITA
                physical id: 0.0.0
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
                logical name: /dev/cdrom
                logical name: /dev/cdrw
                logical name: /dev/dvd
                logical name: /dev/dvdrw
                logical name: /dev/scd0
                logical name: /dev/sr0
                version: 1.00
                capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
                configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
That should let you know if it is even picking up the drive.


On a separate note, Here are some resources you may find useful:

Linuxcommand.org - I recommend the PDF, it starts out simple and slowly progresses through basic use,techniques,tips, and more advanced stuff towards the end ... But the first few chapters will serve well.

Commands Image - I used this as a wallpaper (and still refer to it) it lists most of the basic commands, stuff like unzipping a file or searching directories.

linux help - These tutorials are in easy to understand good ol english. None of the tech-y stuff...well there is a little.

Good luck.

Last edited by Hevithan; 06-23-2011 at 02:04 PM.
 
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Old 06-23-2011, 07:27 PM   #7
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Try
Code:
cat /etc/*release*

lsb_release
That's 2 separate cmds.

Also, try asking your friend to tell you what he installed, and ideally give you a copy of the installation media.
That's really going to help.

Re CD you can also try
Code:
lspci
 
Old 06-24-2011, 12:52 PM   #8
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Thank you for your posts. I first typed in lshw and got 'command not found' and cat /etc/*release* and got the same thing. Bash4.1# Instead of immediately writing back I went to the recommended linuxcommand.org and about the third thing I read was 'Your not logged in as Root are you?" which went on to tell me it was dangerous and stupid and in poor taste." Which is also what I have heard about using Crack and Heroin, so I stopped doing anything other than this. The order was to 'Create a user acct', but didn't instruct me how to do that.
The installation disc, my ba1dly scrambled friend left,has Slackware DVD Install Iso V=13.1 32bit
Using the recommended lspci I got a list, but having previous experience with 'dangerous and stupid', Including this head injury, I would rather establishing myself as something other than 'Root'. I should probably clarify that this is already set up so I have a windows type interface (GUI?) and I have been using it like windows. Including this forum page, many audios and videos on news pages, (youtube) etc don't run, All I get is a blank play screen.
When I start up the laptop it does run thru a large numbers of line commands and ends with Login: at which I type root and then my password and at the next command I type startx.
Yours Humbly
Le Phatdaddi
 
Old 06-24-2011, 06:08 PM   #9
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The installation disc, my ba1dly scrambled friend left,has Slackware DVD Install Iso V=13.1 32bit
I myself have not used slackware, But I do know that if you want an easy to use introductory distro Slack is not it. However if you plan on jumping in and learning to use the command line, build packages, figure out the inner workings ... You're set.

Slackware home

The navigation links on the left side of the page should provide useful for using slackware.


If your in the market for something with a more easy to navigate and work with interface you may consider getting a different distro. www.distrowatch.com will give you info on distros ... Recent releases, updates, reviews,etc. Distro's such as ubuntu or mint are geared towards making linux pretty easy.

Hope this helps. Good luck.

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Old 06-24-2011, 06:34 PM   #10
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This guy reminds me of Artemis Fowl.

Try posting in this forum about an individual problem or ones that are relevent to each other.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/

Also, if want a distro to start with, try Ubuntu, or if you want more of a challenge Fedora.
 
Old 06-24-2011, 07:31 PM   #11
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Please feel welcome here ... we have all been where you are, with the possible exception of that head-injury. Don't feel like withdrawing for asking "dumb" questions. As they say, "the only dumb question is the one you chose not to ask."
 
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Old 06-24-2011, 09:55 PM   #12
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Hehe... I remember the time I first booted up my machine with a Knoppix LiveCD, and felt "This is awesome!", but I hadn't the darndest idea regarding how to do a single thing! The way I learned anything and pretty much everything I know about GNU/Linux is googling, and if unsuccessful, asking around on forums. I do not regret any of the journey one bit, and feel everyone should make it themselves!

Indeed, Ubuntu is the friendliest to try out, and the least frustrating, in that the least amount of things go wrong with it. But if someone is willing to learn, Arch is a great experience - they tell you everything you need to know after all!
 
Old 06-25-2011, 04:11 AM   #13
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If you got
Quote:
command not found
for
Code:
cat /etc/*release*
that would be unbelievable.. cat is one of the most basic built-in cmds.

I'll have to ask

1. was it 'command not found' or 'file not found' ?
2. you do know Linux is case sensitive; you have to put that all in lowercase

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Old 06-25-2011, 08:52 AM   #14
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'Your not logged in as Root are you?" which went on to tell me it was dangerous and stupid and in poor taste." Which is also what I have heard about using Crack and Heroin, so I stopped doing anything other than this. The order was to 'Create a user acct', but didn't instruct me how to do that.
The installation disc, my ba1dly scrambled friend left,has Slackware DVD Install Iso V=13.1 32bit
To create a user account, when logged in as root, run this:
Code:
adduser whatever name you want
Accept the defaults (press Enter) for all questions, except when it asks for extra group membership, then press the Up arrow key, and add lp (small ell).
Then exit as root when the account setup finishes, log in as your new user, and enter startx. Ask any more questions in the Slackware forum.
Good luck.
 
Old 06-25-2011, 07:34 PM   #15
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Thank you again for all of the replies. I did get 'Command not found". Assuming it was case sensitive I am stubborn enough I tried it several times. I originally learned and forgot basic/fortan/cobol in the early 80's (on punch cards) so I am not above or below learning command lines. I am going to continue on whatever this is set up with until I can smell cerebral smoke and then may try the advised Ubuntu. Knowing its not the kind of 'Dangerous and stupid' where a mortuary artist needs a before pic and my shade of face spackle, I will tinker with this more after I set up a user acct and consult the mentioned pages....Who is Artemis Fowl?


Human behaviour changes from four motivating factors sex,pain,fear and ambition. Confusing these is what I would consider 'Dangerous and stupid'.

Thanks all, I will post what step I stumble thru next.
 
  


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