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Old 07-25-2004, 09:06 PM   #16
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Hmm, looks like alsa isn't installed. Do you know if snd-ens1371 is alsa or oss?

Looks like the modules loaded without errors. After modprobing try:

lsmod

also as root. Look for anything sound related. Post the relavant parts if you can.
 
Old 07-25-2004, 11:09 PM   #17
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That is what I got. I looked in 'Volume Control' panel where it has everything listed. It had 2 tabs.

First one was...
Cirrus Logic CS4297A rev 3 [OSS Mixer]

Second one...
Ensoniq AudioPCI [Alsa Mixer]

Has it installed 2 different sound cards possibly? One being OSS and one being alsa?

I hope you can use the following to help assist more. I really appreciate your dedication on this.

JS

Code:
/sbin/lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
snd_pcm_oss            45352  0
snd_mixer_oss          17792  3 snd_pcm_oss
snd_ens1371            22372  4
snd_rawmidi            21924  1 snd_ens1371
snd_seq_device         10120  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_pcm                76804  3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_ens1371
snd_page_alloc         12040  1 snd_pcm
snd_timer              22532  1 snd_pcm
snd_ac97_codec         59140  1 snd_ens1371
snd                    45028  11 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_ens1371,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_ac97_codec
gameport                7424  1 snd_ens1371
soundcore              10336  3 snd
parport_pc             23616  1
lp                     12300  0
parport                34632  2 parport_pc,lp
autofs4                18052  0
sunrpc                119396  1
tulip                  41504  0
ipt_REJECT              8704  1
ipt_state               5504  7
ip_conntrack           30348  1 ipt_state
iptable_filter          6144  1
ip_tables              18176  3 ipt_REJECT,ipt_state,iptable_filter
floppy                 52336  0
sg                     32416  0
scsi_mod               97736  1 sg
microcode              10400  0
dm_mod                 37152  0
uhci_hcd               29080  0
button                  8600  0
battery                10892  0
asus_acpi              12952  0
ac                      7308  0
radeon                112084  0
ipv6                  215136  10
ext3                  109416  2
jbd                    50840  1 ext3
 
Old 07-26-2004, 12:06 AM   #18
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After seeing your lsmod (list loaded modules) I can say that you have loaded the alsa modules. The oss referances are
the alsa to oss backward compatability. I am wondering if the alsa system utils are installed on your system. Alsaconf, alsamixer,
and alsactl among others. As root:

updatedb (to update the locate db, may take a while)
locate alsaconf
locate alsamixer
locate alsactl

IIRC redhat has been known to change the names of some of the config utils, you might look for something like redhat-configure-something.
Another thing to look at is whether alsa is enabled in the gui arts setup. Also, it's been a while since I used rh, but I seem to recall that rh doesn't
install the entire alsa package by default. You might use the package manager to see if there is an alsa choice.
 
Old 07-26-2004, 08:06 PM   #19
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I did the locates after I updated the db...

Code:
 locate alsamixer
/usr/bin/alsamixer
/usr/share/man/man1/alsamixer.1.gz
Next one...
Code:
locate alsactl
/usr/sbin/alsactl
/usr/share/man/man1/alsactl.1.gz
The locate alsaconf found nothing.

There is nothing in the add/remove panel about alsa. What is GUI arts setup? Should I goto ALSA.org and get the latest rpm for Fedora Core 2?

Where would I Look for that redhad-configure-something?

JS
 
Old 07-26-2004, 10:01 PM   #20
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Ok, so the basic tools alsamixer and alsactl are installed but no alsaconf. One of the reasons I quit using rh. They do some annoying
customizations I'm guessing rh renamed (or replaced) with
redhat-configure-<?>

Ever use command completion? Enter:

redhat-conf

on the command line then start hitting tab. When there is only one possible completion it will autocomplete. When there
are several two tabs will show the possibilities. I'm thinking that it's redhat-configure-sound though.

Arts is the sound server that kde uses to schedule sounds that then get passed to the sound driver. There used to be a
separate section in the kde control center for it, but that was rh8. There was a field where you could specify alsa.

I would hold off on getting an alsa rpm for now, though that might eventually might not be such a bad idea.

I'm pretty sure all the needs to happen in order to get your sound working is to run alsaconf or the equivalent.
 
Old 07-26-2004, 10:13 PM   #21
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nm i got thrown of by the end of the page - someone else already responded to what i thought i was responding to

Last edited by MasterPi; 07-26-2004 at 10:15 PM.
 
Old 07-27-2004, 10:22 PM   #22
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I found an alsa.conf would that be what we are looking for?

JS
 
Old 07-27-2004, 10:25 PM   #23
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I havnet used the completion command. Could you explain more how.

JS
 
Old 07-28-2004, 10:44 AM   #24
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One of the really cool things about linux is the intelligent command line. For example, suppose you wanted
to run lspci but couldn't remember it exactly, but you remember it starts with ls. You type ls and hit the tab
key. Since there are several commands that start with "ls" (ls, lspci, lsmod) the first time it will beep to let you
know there are several choices. Hit tab again it will list those choices. Type p and then hit tab and it will complete
to lspci (unless there is another command that starts "lsp") It also works with filenames and directories. For
example, when "cd"ing around.

cd /ho and hit tab. Play around with it. You'll catch on quick and like it a lot.

alsa.conf is alsa's config file. alsaconf is a configuration program for alsa. Unforturnately no.
 
Old 07-28-2004, 07:58 PM   #25
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Okay.. do I need to install the alsa package? I dont know what to do. I cant find a redhat-conf file there isnt anything showing up. I did like the functionality of the tab find deal that was good. The reason it didnt work for me was because there is nothing named redhat-conf :-P.

Any more help would be greatly appreciated.

JS
 
Old 07-28-2004, 08:35 PM   #26
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At this point it might not be a bad idea to try to install alsa if you can find an rpm. Alternately,
you could compile and install from source but that's kind of throwing you into the deep end.
Here's the thing. Your modules look ok, they load without error. So they should work. But alsa
needs at minimum alsamixer, alsactl and alsaconf in order to work. Alsaconf is a program that
autoedits some configuration files for alsa. Alsamixer is needed to access the soundcard mixer
through the alsa interface. Alsactl is a tool that in used by alsamixer and iirc alsaconf.

But you don't seem to have alsaconf. I'm guessing the rh renamed or replaced it. And I don't know
what it's called. At one time rh used the prefix redhat-configure- for their utilities. For example,
redhat-configure-networks i believe was one for networking. And redhat-configure-xfree for graphics
setup.

By the way, the tab completion thing works great with the cp command. cd into a directory you want to
copy files into from various locations. Use the tab trick to locate the files, hit space and type ./ for the
destination.
 
  


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