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Old 04-03-2013, 10:27 AM   #1
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some rpms throwing error when installing oracle on rhel5


Hello to all ;

Today i have taken oracle 10g installation on RHEL5 with(JUNIORS). I faced warning message.
I asked UNIX team they suggest me to ignore following error. but i'm not satisfied.

pm -Uivh glibc-2*
warning: glibc-2.5-12.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 37017186
warning: package glibc = 2.5-12 was already added,
skipping glibc < 2.5-12 error: error reading from file glibc-2.5-12.i686.rpm

What's the cause of error here ?

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Old 04-03-2013, 11:14 AM   #2
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Hello to all ;
Today i have taken oracle 10g installation on RHEL5 with(JUNIORS). I faced warning message. I asked UNIX team they suggest me to ignore following error. but i'm not satisfied.

pm -Uivh glibc-2*
warning: glibc-2.5-12.i386.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 37017186
warning: package glibc = 2.5-12 was already added,
skipping glibc < 2.5-12 error: error reading from file glibc-2.5-12.i686.rpm

What's the cause of error here ?
If your unix team gave you an answer, and you won't listen to/believe them, why are you going to believe anyone else?? And you posted yourself, that it's a WARNING message, not an ERROR. Did you read it??? It says:
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package glibc = 2.5-12 [B]was already added, skipping glibc < 2.5-12
It's telling you that glibc version 2.5-12 is already installed, so it is skipping the glibc that is LESS THAN 2.5-12. Very plain. Since you're doing this "with juniors", you probably should teach them to try looking things up on Oracle's website:
https://forums.oracle.com/forums/thr...readID=2348563

..and teach them (as you've been told before), to use yum to install packages, rather than rpm, so you won't get messages, missing dependencies, etc. AGAIN: you are using Oracle and Red Hat Enterprise...you are PAYING FOR SUPPORT FROM THEM BOTH...you should USE IT.
 
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Old 04-03-2013, 11:38 AM   #3
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Thanks TBone. Every time you are giving valuable reply . It's very useful to us.

Thanks Guru !

FYI : Installing oracle is n't my work. It's my own interest to teach to my juniors.(Oracle DBA and UNIX).
 
Old 04-03-2013, 11:47 AM   #4
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Thanks TBone. Every time you are giving valuable reply . It's very useful to us. Thanks Guru !

FYI : Installing oracle is n't my work. It's my own interest to teach to my juniors.(Oracle DBA and UNIX).
If installing Oracle isn't your work, and being a Unix/Linux admin isn't your work...why are you doing both, and attempting to train others on those tasks? Teachers should KNOW the subjects they're teaching.

Glad things have helped, but again you seem to be ignoring parts of it:
  • Both Red Hat and Oracle have knowledgebase systems, which you are paying for access to
  • You should be searching those knowledgebases before posting questions ANYWHERE
  • You should be trying to look things up on Google before posting
  • You should be contacting Red Hat support, since you're paying for it.
  • You should be contacting Oracle support, since you're paying for it.
  • You should be reading the man pages on the commands you're using
  • You should be following advice given to you, such as "don't use rpm, use yum", but you aren't.
If you really are teaching others, you are teaching them bad practices, and passing along incorrect information, neither of which is going to do them any favors later on.
 
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Old 04-03-2013, 12:09 PM   #5
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OK TBone !

Teaching is n't my work ! but in my env some members believe (asking ) me to explain DBA related things ..

If you really are teaching others, you are teaching them bad practices, and passing along incorrect information,

I can't stop this things .. Just i have nearly 3 years exp with Oracle Industry.

Please advice me what are the things should i focus deeply or (change) when taking unix/linux sessions ?

Teaching unix sessions are for knowledge sharing only. (Not Compulsion by anyone) ..

Please suggest us !!
 
Old 04-03-2013, 12:21 PM   #6
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OK TBone !
Teaching is n't my work ! but in my env some members believe (asking ) me to explain DBA related things ..
So, to recap:
  • You're not a DBA, and aren't an Oracle expert
  • You're not a unix/linux administrator
  • You're not an instructor
But you've somehow been asked to put 'lessons' together about two subjects you don't know very well, if at all?
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I can't stop this things .. Just i have nearly 3 years exp with Oracle Industry.
Yes, you can stop it; you do so by saying "I'm not an Oracle or Linux expert". If they still ask you to do it, then your response to your boss should be "Fine, then I need you to get someone from the Oracle team and the unix team to meet with me, and get proper documentation put together so it's accurate".
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Please advice me what are the things should i focus deeply or (change) when taking unix/linux sessions?
I did advise you. Re-read the list I posted before, and the many comments that people have posted here. You are ignoring what people are telling you. AGAIN: do research on your own; look things up.
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Teaching unix sessions are for knowledge sharing only. (Not Compulsion by anyone) Please suggest us !!
So AGAIN: sharing bad knowledge/advice is worse than not knowing. If your people need unix training, then the unix team needs to be doing it, or VERY heavily involved. Same with Oracle training. Simple.

If you need classes, then look around in your area, find some, and take them. If you want someone to put together a comprehensive training plan for your company, then post it in the LQ Job Marketplace along with how much you're willing to pay.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 12:44 PM   #7
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I need you to get someone from the Oracle team and the unix team to meet with me, and get proper documentation put together so it's accurate". 
Nothanks Tbone !

Quote:
You're not a DBA, and aren't an Oracle expert
You're not a unix/linux administrator
You're not an instructor
Why others asking and believing me ? - that's my dedication and hard work in my env .. That's it !

Quote:
If you want someone to put together a comprehensive training plan for your company,
NoThanks .. Not required from out of my comapny. We have TOP class trainers. then why i am taking training session ?

Self interest and trying to become a next level ... OK TBone. Thanks to ton advice : newbie:

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Old 04-03-2013, 02:14 PM   #8
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I need you to get someone from the Oracle team and the unix team to meet with me,
and get proper documentation put together so it's accurate".
No thanks Tbone!
Why is this such a difficult issue for you?? Working with/communicating with your co-workers should be trivial..the fact that you seem to think it's NOT, indicates some major issues, either with the way you work with your co-workers, or with your company. Either should be addressed.
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Why others asking and believing me ? - that's my dedication and hard work in my env .. That's it !
Yet you are lying to them, by letting them THINK that you have knowledge you don't.
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Quote:
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If you want someone to put together a comprehensive training plan for your company,
No Thanks .. Not required from out of my comapny. We have TOP class trainers. then why i am taking training session ?
Again, you are not making much sense. If your company has "top class trainers", then why are YOU putting together training classes/materials??? You say you've got 3 years of Oracle experience...but don't have Oracle knowledge.

And now you say you're TAKING a training session? If you're TAKING it, that means you don't know it well enough to GIVE lessons, which is what you're asking.
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Self interest and trying to become a next level
Next level of what? You say you're not a DBA, unix/linux administrator, or trainer. All of which you're asking about.

And you ARE STILL IGNORING/NOT ANSWERING THINGS GIVEN TO YOU
  • Both Red Hat and Oracle have knowledgebase systems, which you are paying for access to
  • You should be searching those knowledgebases before posting questions ANYWHERE
  • You should be trying to look things up on Google before posting
  • You should be contacting Red Hat support, since you're paying for it.
  • You should be contacting Oracle support, since you're paying for it.
  • You should be reading the man pages on the commands you're using
  • You should be following advice given to you, such as "don't use rpm, use yum", but you aren't.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 03:01 PM   #9
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I am not IGNORING/NOT ANSWERING to your response.

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You say you've got 3 years of Oracle experience...but don't have Oracle knowledge.
Really it hurts me. I never said 'not a dba' (still i have a good name in oracle prod & Testing env)

My leads appreciated when seeing my activities in my env .. but one more "Nobody knows Everything"

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Working with/communicating with your co-workers should be trivial.
I donít want depend too much on anyone ( but i', interacting with UNIX Team)

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why are YOU putting together training classes/materials??? 
Already i said i am trying to impress my leads to move next level.

Next level of what? Trying to become a prod head in oracle env. but one day i will be achieved) ..

Thanks Guru ! "Even successful maths also starts with Zero !"

Thanks , My Linux Guru !
 
Old 04-03-2013, 04:26 PM   #10
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I am not IGNORING/NOT ANSWERING to your response.
Then why don't you acknowledge any of the points in the list I've posted twice so far in this thread (and those points have been made in OTHER threads too)?

Not acknowledging = ignoring
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Really it hurts me. I never said 'not a dba' (still i have a good name in oracle prod & Testing env)
Well, read back through your posts. You say that you have three years of Oracle experience, and a 'good name' in Oracle prod/testing. Yet you post questions about how to INSTALL Oracle, how to tune it (and WHY)
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-linux-941831/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-4-5-a-943988/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ed-but-945768/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...se-4175437815/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ux-4175438460/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...se-4175438324/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...up-4175444021/
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My leads appreciated when seeing my activities in my env .. but one more "Nobody knows Everything"
Again, you are not making sense. It doesn't matter how great you are at whatever it is you do (you don't say), but you lack the knowledge to be training others in Oracle/Linux, based on what you posted. All that you're going to do is confuse whoever it is you train, since you're not working with the others in your company, not getting correct information, and not even trying to look things up on your own.

You seem to be missing that point, or ignoring it.
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I donít want depend too much on anyone ( but i', interacting with UNIX Team)
So then why aren't you using Red Hat or Oracle knowledgebases, and looking things up on your own, as opposed to coming here so others can do it for you?
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Already i said i am trying to impress my leads to move next level. Next level of what? Trying to become a prod head in oracle env. but one day i will be achieved)
Impress them with knowledge and teamwork. TALK to your co-workers, because if you can't, you're useless at ANY company. Research and learn things on your own.
 
Old 04-03-2013, 04:56 PM   #11
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My Guru ....

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I'm not acting like "BORN WINNER" and I don't pretend to know everything.
Ok Guru !! You posted my previous threads .. I don't know what's the need to look here ?

Everyday , Everysecond all are getting or improving their own knowledge ( by XXXXXXXXXXX)

but i don't want to research those links .. I crossed long long ago.

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Why i am coming here so others can do it for you?
Yes. Whenever i am lacking , i need some experts help (like TBOne) ! So i am asking here ..
Please understand i'm not standing with "EGOISM"

What's the need to prepare docs here ?

I won't get any payment due to creation of training documents but
only thing is. Who will join with me , I am sharing my knowledge what i learnt !


I am not making this thread long. Still i am saying i not expert (oracle/linux)
I want to become a GOOD GURU (not only for my juniors , to all).

Everything will be documented under scribbed.com . Whatever i learnt from here and my Env ..

Thanks !!

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but i don't want to research those links .. I crossed long long ago.
Why don't you tell us what you are willing to do, instead of what you are not willing to do?
 
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