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Old 10-09-2002, 06:57 AM   #1
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some "probably" stupid questions!!!


I have decided that I must be really thick!

Currently the two things that I want to sort out properly are

Putting a shortcut to the real player that I managed to download lastnight on my desktop.

I can go to the site (virgin radio) which even seems to welcome us with "hello linux user" etc etc and with a fair bit of messing around get the realplayer going on the stream. But I want to configure it to be one click away. I have tried reading various help things, but as a non techie, don't follow them. Also there doesn't seem to be a "window$esque" drop down to put a shortcut to desk top.

Any ideas?

Secondly, I want (for consistency reasons + I'm not over keen on mozilla visually) install Opera 6.03.

When I select the rpm from the disc, I go for the install, and get a failed dependancy warning (I get the same warning whether I use a download or the version on disc - linuxformat coverdisc - this month).
So off I go to the "mandrake install" thingy, and look for the libqt.2.so and the only thing that I can find is the libqt development package - version 3 I think it is- I install that and it does nothing.

So I have searched google for libqt.2.so and downloaded that. I still cant manage to get the opera installed.

Any further ideas???

regards

John
 
Old 10-09-2002, 07:06 AM   #2
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well just use the mp3 stream, and not real, save it as a bookmark or whatever you want.
 
Old 10-09-2002, 07:12 AM   #3
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???

Ok Chris, got that, so what app do I listen to that with and can I run it at the same time as surfing other stuff? (sorry for the idiot question, until now I've had no use for mp3's and the like!)

regards

John

p.s. have you got any closer to sorting your job hunt yet ???
 
Old 10-09-2002, 07:26 AM   #4
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well i just clicked the mp3 link and xmms popped up for me courtesy of galeon. i tried using the url as a direct location for xmms, but that didn't work, as the url is too complex i guess.

job... hmm.. that reminds me...
 
Old 10-09-2002, 07:44 AM   #5
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In kde you right click the desktop and select Create New-->Link to Application, then just fill out all the details.
 
Old 10-09-2002, 09:57 AM   #6
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Re: some "probably" stupid questions!!!

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Originally posted by bigjohn
I have decided that I must be really thick!

Currently the two things that I want to sort out properly are

Putting a shortcut to the real player that I managed to download lastnight on my desktop.

I can go to the site (virgin radio) which even seems to welcome us with "hello linux user" etc etc and with a fair bit of messing around get the realplayer going on the stream. But I want to configure it to be one click away. I have tried reading various help things, but as a non techie, don't follow them. Also there doesn't seem to be a "window$esque" drop down to put a shortcut to desk top.

Any ideas?

Secondly, I want (for consistency reasons + I'm not over keen on mozilla visually) install Opera 6.03.

When I select the rpm from the disc, I go for the install, and get a failed dependancy warning (I get the same warning whether I use a download or the version on disc - linuxformat coverdisc - this month).
So off I go to the "mandrake install" thingy, and look for the libqt.2.so and the only thing that I can find is the libqt development package - version 3 I think it is- I install that and it does nothing.

So I have searched google for libqt.2.so and downloaded that. I still cant manage to get the opera installed.

Any further ideas???

regards

John
It sounds more like you want program association rather than desktop shortcuts. Aussie explained the shortcut for you if that's what you want though...

For program association:
In the KDE Control Panel (not Mandrake control Panel) you will see an entry for File Browsing, enter there.
You should see the entry for File Associations. Click it, and now you'll need to know what kind of stream it is. If it's mp3, then:
Click the "plus" sign next to Audio, and drop down the list. Locate your entry for mp3's (mine is x-mp3) and notice the program choices you have. If Realplayer is not listed (and I would like to say here that Chris is right, I'd rather use xmms, but to each his own, and no worries either way) then you should add this as a choice:
Click the ADD button next to the application preference section. Now type in the full location to realplayer (maybe /usr/local/bin/realplayer but to find out either use the locate or find option on your system) and press OK. Now Realplayer will be in the list, but probably at the bottom. Highlight it, and click move up, until it appears at the top of the list. You might want/need to do this to the x-mpegurl section to as this is more likely the stream you are recieving (m3u).

Onto opera...

Get the static version of opera, and make sure it's for your version of QT (QT3). You should find that QT-Static (the one not listed next to a distro) should work for you.

As always, if the RPM doesn't work for you (which if you get the QT Static one it should) then use the source. Luke did, and now look at him

HTH

Cool
 
Old 10-09-2002, 11:12 AM   #7
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I must still be really thick or I've got something configured wrongly

So, when I try Chris's option and click the mp3 option (presumably the 128k mp3 stream as my service is half a meg adsl) I get the download manager that says about choosing audio/x-scpls from http://www. etc etc asking what mozilla should do with this file, to which I have selected open using /usr/share/xmms/xmms.xpm, I then ok that and it just all disappears.

Then I try to follow Aussie's instruction, click on the create link to application, I rename it real audio, I cant change permissions - they are all greyed out, I haven't got a "scooby" what I should put in the execute boxes!, and I also haven't got a clue about whether I use audio/x-real-audio, or audio/x-vnd.rn-realaudio, or audio/x-pn-realaudio.

On Chad's suggestion, I get as far as the application preference section and have got 4 different entries for real player ( much like the ones mentioned above but with 2 differing icons) and promptly get lost as it all goes flying straight over my head!

I'll try tackling Chad's suggestions for qt after i've cooked dinner ( and emptied my Jack Daniels bottle + got more lottery tickets/cigarette papers).

Any further suggestions most welcome

Later.

regards

John
 
Old 10-09-2002, 11:14 AM   #8
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Re: I must still be really thick or I've got something configured wrongly

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So, when I try Chris's option and click the mp3 option (presumably the 128k mp3 stream as my service is half a meg adsl) I get the download manager that says about choosing audio/x-scpls from http://www. etc etc asking what mozilla should do with this file, to which I have selected open using /usr/share/xmms/xmms.xpm, I then ok that and it just all disappears.
erm... an xpm file is a picture just say "xmms", you shouldn't need a path or anything, as the whole point ifs that it's executable...
 
Old 10-09-2002, 12:25 PM   #9
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stress, stress and more stress

Well,

That's the chicken provencale? au gratin in the oven, cats fed, lottery ticket/cigarette papers bought, Jack D bottle emptied and coffee made so I reckon that it will be about 6pm when I get the first of the "you spend too much time on that bloody computer"! triffic, I can't wait.

Ok Chris, I'll have another go at that presently, I'm going to try Chads' idea to get the opera up and running first (I'm still a little stressed that I can't get the real player or xmms stream thing going - pathetic eh!)

regards

John

p.s. your comment about the xpm bit being a picture is a classic example as to why I love to hate linux and/or mandrake etc. I feel that there is not enough clear and concise information, something that has been commented on here by me and others, as well as more illustrious places like the register etc. I just take the easiest option and admit to stupidity (well just lack of knowledge really!)


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Old 10-09-2002, 02:59 PM   #10
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opera 1 bigjohn nil

Righty ho,

I have managed to get the opera 6.03 installed and I'm posting from it at the moment, I have to use the "run" command from the "K" menu to start it.

Does anybody know how I put it into the menu to start it from there? - last time I had it up and running under mandrake 8.2, it put a menu entry under the correct app group by itself, this time not, so ?????

regards

John

p.s. I'm now off to see what happens when I try to get the radio stream from virgin with the opera.
 
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well my suggestion is presumably relevant to opera just as much as any browser... just a case of setting default application handlers.
 
Old 10-09-2002, 09:38 PM   #12
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Re: opera 1 bigjohn nil

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Righty ho,

I have managed to get the opera 6.03 installed and I'm posting from it at the moment, I have to use the "run" command from the "K" menu to start it.

Does anybody know how I put it into the menu to start it from there? - last time I had it up and running under mandrake 8.2, it put a menu entry under the correct app group by itself, this time not, so ?????

regards

John

p.s. I'm now off to see what happens when I try to get the radio stream from virgin with the opera.
Cool. Use menudrake, it should be listed as an option in Preferences... Should be pretty much straight forward from there.

Let us know how it goes from there for ya on the streaming audio

Cool
 
Old 10-10-2002, 04:11 AM   #13
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I'll try that!

Chris, sorry if my last post sounded like a ticking off, it was supposed to be an admission of my own stupidity. I am an impatient shit. I spend a lot of time looking around the web for answers and get depressed at the amount of help out there that is plain hard to find (and follow for that matter).

There is so much assistance, I often feel that I am suffering from information overload, and usually end up back at LQ, because this is where I have received such a large amount of assistance.

Again, it wasn't mean to sound in anyway critical, but self pity/disguist/stress etc.

regards

John

p.s. I had thought that under linux, I had got away from confusing file format types - xpm - obviously not eh
 
Old 10-10-2002, 04:21 AM   #14
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menudrake

Thanks Chad,

The penny dropped last night while I was trying to get to sleep.

Most people try counting sheep or somesuch, I get weird fantasies about KDE menu's.

I wonder if it's a freudian thing???

The opera won't kick start realplayer, it gives me some small text information that looks like html coding and opens the download manager but nothing else. I am having to get the real player stream started with mozilla, when the real player is getting its stream, close mozilla and open opera to continue browsing.

An no, it's not that I think there is anything wrong with mozilla, but I prefer the look of opera, it seems more to my tastes of how I like my browser to look - the fonts look clearer, the text boxes appear white, rather than grey and the overall looks better.

I'll keep you informed.

regards

John :-#
 
Old 10-10-2002, 04:22 AM   #15
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thanks for the link to virgin-i have real player8, i downloaded the file indicated by the real link and then opened rp8 and went to file, down to open file and opened the file i just downloaded-it went right up to a timeout message, but as soon as i closed that ,on it came and i'm listening to it now-good sounds ,nice audio.
the app on the desktop thing-i thought in kde you can right click on the panel and get an add option where you can add a button or app-don't know if that will work for you, its how i have setup realplayer-i'm going to fool with xmms and see if i can get that going-these tunes are doing some justice to my sound system-thanks

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