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Old 03-20-2006, 07:58 PM   #16
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Hello IBall, I like trying diffrent Linux distros on my PC. Can you tell me some more about Debian? I don't need an OS for enterprise use but yes I would love to use them atleast once. Is any version of Debian available that fits on onc CD or two?
 
Old 03-20-2006, 08:00 PM   #17
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wow excellent, i'll let that download and i'll go to bed. 1am here. since its an iso, would it be best to put it onto a cd or virtual drive. i'll install it on windows. i'll just try to find out how to uninstall this version of suse.

nite nite


thanks again
 
Old 03-20-2006, 08:53 PM   #18
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dougelephant: You don't need to uninstall Suse - just install whatever other Linux distro on top of it.

manishsingh4u: www.debian.org You can install Debian using a net-install, where you just download a small (50Mb ISO) and then it will download all the packages that you request during installation. Ubuntu and Kubuntu come on 1 cd.

--Ian
 
Old 03-20-2006, 09:32 PM   #19
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Thanks IBall about debian. I will definitely give it a try. I will also go for Kubuntu as I like KDE more. thanks again.
 
Old 03-21-2006, 09:00 AM   #20
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Hi,

Debian is great, but it won't be easier than OpenSuse on multimedia things. And, in general, no matter the distro you choose, soon or later you will need to install it something from source. So I'll recommend you to try to go further and install mplayer in OpenSuse.

You need to install a compiler. Go into Yast and look for gcc (probably inside the "Development" category). Then install and try ./configure again. Either it will succeed or it will complain for something else and we can iterate...

Of course if you want to try different distros you can and I encourage you to do so, but I'll recommend you not to install 1, but two of them: the current best and the next you are trying. This is because there is no distro that will solve all your problems magically. It is better if you try to settle with one and move to other only if you have very strong reasons. That said, I'll recommend you Ubuntu/Kubuntu, because they are Debian based, but a lot easier to use.

Good luck!
 
Old 03-21-2006, 11:39 AM   #21
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Originally Posted by dougelephant
Checking for cc version ... not found
Checking for gcc version ... not found
Checking for gcc-3.4 version ... not found
This one has bitten me so many times its not funny. I second the recommendation to install using the package manager or from a pre-compiled package, in your case an rpm. Much easier and less error prone.

If you feel some compelling need to install from source, pat yourself on the back - you've taken a major step forward.

Chances are high that you do, in fact, have the right compiler. Check to make sure. I don't use or know Suse, but it sounds like Yast is your package manager. Use that to install gcc-3.4 if you don't have it already. While you're at it, you'll probably want to get the kernel source. At least the headers anyway.

Now you need to tell it what compiler to use. In terminal:
Code:
su
CC=gcc-3.4
export CC
exit
CC=gcc-3.4
export CC
This merely sets an environment variable that will tell the configure script what compiler you have. Now just go through the ./configure ./make ./makeinstall routine again.

I'm a big fan of ubuntu/debian, but don't feel you have to abandon your distro just because of this one speed bump. I'll let you in on a little secret - you'll probably encounter this same type of situation no matter what distro you use. If you spend the time to learn how to deal with it now, you'll be better prepared for what lies ahead.

But please feel free to ignore my advice, as I'm a total newbie as well.
 
Old 03-21-2006, 06:21 PM   #22
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no thanks i found ur post really helpful. now all i need to do is find out how do install this gcc 3.4.6
 
Old 03-21-2006, 06:43 PM   #23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by manishsingh4u
Hello IBall, I like trying diffrent Linux distros on my PC. Can you tell me some more about Debian? I don't need an OS for enterprise use but yes I would love to use them atleast once. Is any version of Debian available that fits on onc CD or two?
You can use as many linux distros as you want. For example you can install suse into /opensuse and then what the installer will do (hopefully) append root=/opensuse to the kernel option. Its that simple.

If you get even more advanced you can have as many filesystems as you want. Who knows? You might want to try out reiser4 one day or something.
 
Old 03-22-2006, 02:48 AM   #24
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ok well, i managed to download a mplayer .rpm file and i managed to install it easy with yast2, but i've no idea where it went. tbh i dont even know if it was the right thing. i cant find it in the k menu, and when i try to search for it, nothing comes up. i will try again after work
 
Old 03-22-2006, 11:25 AM   #25
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1) Open KMenu from the Taskbar (Panel),
2) Go to Multimedia -> Video Player -> Mplayer

or

If you don't find it there,
1) Open KMenu
2) Go to Run Cammand -> type "konsole" as a command -> Type "mplayer" in the konsole.

If there's any problem, you can see the output in the konsole itself.
 
Old 03-22-2006, 11:36 AM   #26
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Is that possible

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Originally Posted by slantoflight
You can use as many linux distros as you want. For example you can install suse into /opensuse and then what the installer will do (hopefully) append root=/opensuse to the kernel option. Its that simple.

If you get even more advanced you can have as many filesystems as you want. Who knows? You might want to try out reiser4 one day or something.
Hello slantoflight,
If I am not getting u wrong, can I install other linux distro over my curtent distro? Is that possible? Maybe I am talking silly here, but I didn't actually get what u just said? I am using SuSE 9.1 Personal now and I have a CD for Vector Linux in my hand. Can I install it without having to remove SuSE as I have upgraded it a lot and I don't wanna loose all that stuff for a while.
 
Old 03-22-2006, 12:49 PM   #27
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Good Question

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Hello slantoflight,
If I am not getting u wrong, can I install other linux distro over my curtent distro?
Good question, because I'm not quite sure what he meant either. I'm assuming he meant that you could create a partition for another install. This second install would become a boot option so that you could run another distro. I've never tried, or even heard of, installing on top of another distro, so I can't comment on whether or not it would work. I can only say I wouldn't try it.

Just as with any distro, you can install ubuntu and add the kubuntu desktop later, or do it the other way round if you prefer. I have gnome, kde, xfce, and fluxbox all installed and can login to any session type I feel like at the moment.
 
Old 03-22-2006, 01:30 PM   #28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragineez
Good question, because I'm not quite sure what he meant either. I'm assuming he meant that you could create a partition for another install.
Allright, it sounds good. I think it is poosible. I will try it today itself. If I am successfull, I will be posting the good news soon. Or If I fail, then maybe it is gonna be a delay in my posting as I will be busy for a while in setting my system. lol. Anyway, thanks for this idea.
 
Old 03-22-2006, 07:52 PM   #29
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If you want to try another distro, you can either install it on the same partition as Suse, which will obviously remove Suse.

Alternatively, if you create a number of partitions on your hard drive, you can dual-boot between multiple distros. Therefore, you can install Suse on one, Ubuntu on another, Vector Linux on another, etc. Unfortunately, while you can resize partitions using "resize2fs", you will probably lose data. Therefore, if you want to do this, you may be better off to reinstall Suse, and leave some free space on the disk, and then install other distros to the free space.

I hope this helps
--Ian
 
Old 03-23-2006, 02:44 AM   #30
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i couldnt find mplayer in the list, but when i typwed it in console.....

MPlayer dev-Fedora-GS-CVS-051128-12:25-4.0.1 (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
CPU: Advanced Micro Devices Athlon 64 Newcastle,Winchester,San Diego,Venice; Sempron Palermo (Family: 15, Stepping: 2)
CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection - WARNING - this is not optimal!
To get best performance, recompile MPlayer with --disable-runtime-cpudetection.


Usage: mplayer [options] [url|path/]filename

Basic options: (complete list in the man page)
-vo <drv[:dev]> select video output driver & device ('-vo help' for a list)
-ao <drv[:dev]> select audio output driver & device ('-ao help' for a list)
vcd://<trackno> play (S)VCD (Super Video CD) track (raw device, no mount)
dvd://<titleno> play DVD title from device instead of plain file
-alang/-slang select DVD audio/subtitle language (by 2-char country code)
-ss <timepos> seek to given (seconds or hh:mm:ss) position
-nosound do not play sound
-fs fullscreen playback (or -vm, -zoom, details in the man page)
-x <x> -y <y> set display resolution (for use with -vm or -zoom)
-sub <file> specify subtitle file to use (also see -subfps, -subdelay)
-playlist <file> specify playlist file
-vid x -aid y select video (x) and audio (y) stream to play
-fps x -srate y change video (x fps) and audio (y Hz) rate
-pp <quality> enable postprocessing filter (details in the man page)
-framedrop enable frame dropping (for slow machines)

Basic keys: (complete list in the man page, also check input.conf)
<- or -> seek backward/forward 10 seconds
down or up seek backward/forward 1 minute
pgdown or pgup seek backward/forward 10 minutes
< or > step backward/forward in playlist
p or SPACE pause movie (press any key to continue)
q or ESC stop playing and quit program
+ or - adjust audio delay by +/- 0.1 second
o cycle OSD mode: none / seekbar / seekbar + timer
* or / increase or decrease PCM volume
x or z adjust subtitle delay by +/- 0.1 second
r or t adjust subtitle position up/down, also see -vf expand

* * * SEE THE MAN PAGE FOR DETAILS, FURTHER (ADVANCED) OPTIONS AND KEYS * * *



any ideas?
 
  


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