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Old 01-01-2006, 02:23 PM   #16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by V!NCENT
I have the same problem too. I am running Xardros (KDE 3.?). When doing absolutely nothing it consumes almost ALL memory (AMD athlon 2800, 1 gig mem). It claims to run on a p2 450mhz with 64mb mem, recommend.

How do I turn it on? I have read articles about doing it but I can't get it to work. Please explain it to me like I am your grandmother who wants to know how to send an email beacause I am still so newbish *arg!* :P
I don't have half the pc (about 800 something ram) you have and I can run anything. I run Gnome or KDE with heavyweights like OpenOffice, Firefox, Azureus, Netbeans and more stuff like that all at once without problems or continuous slowdowns. And I don't perform any special tweaks or overclocking. I do run Slackware which might score me some speedy points but not that many.

How do you know how much memory it uses? Maybe you are reading it wrong.
 
Old 01-01-2006, 02:48 PM   #17
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By "turn it on" I assume you are referring to the memory timings.

Warning: Go slow and take notes. Preferably have a digital camera handy.

Ok, when you start up your PC yo first get the sign-on message from your Video Card. Then you get the memory test and there is also a line saying "Press Del to enter setup" (often F2, sometimes another key).

Press that key and you will enter the CMOS setup screen. This is where you configure the hardware. There are basically 3 types of screen:
1. You get a main page where you use the arrow keys to scroll up and down and press Enter to access the next page.
2. You get a sort of menu bar at the top. Left and Right arrows move along the menu bar, up and down arrows take you into the page, Enter selects the item and presents you with the choices,
3. A horrible mouse driven graphics page. These, I think, went out with the Pentium 1.

If you have the motherboard manual, maybe on CD, it helps.

Navigate around till you feel familiar with the system. Bear in mind that any changes you make will not take effect until you "Exit, saving changes". At worst just reset the machine and no harm will be done.

It is a good idea to photograph the screens to have a record of your current setup.

In one of the "advanced" screens you will find "DRAM timing". Note the setting. If not "Auto" try Auto. If Auto change to manual. You will then have a choice of groups of numbers. The smaller the numbers, the faster the timing is (essentially the numbers of clock ticks to do something). First try slowing down one step. Quit, saving changes. The PC will reboot. See how you go. If worse or no better go back to CMOS settings and this time increase the speed.

Change only one thing at a time and one step at a time. (tedious but safer).

There is a menu choice to load default settings. Note however that may change a lot of settings so if, for example your on-board graphics card, or network card, is disabled it will be re-enabled, causing you problems.

I suggest that you first find out how to clear the CMOS. This is done by moving a jumper on the motherboard. If you render your computer unbootable then this will wipe out the CMOS and load defaults.

I'm not trying to scare you but you're playing in delicate territory here so go easy.

One thing which comes to mind is whether you have the wrong type of memory installed or 2 different memory modules.

This of course is assuming that your problem lies in memory speed and not elsewhere.

Good luck, sorry to be so long winded but you did ask!
 
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Old 01-03-2006, 04:02 AM   #18
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re disabling services
This will provide only small improvments, nveretheless
usually any services starting with r
and ntfs are not needed for a desktop.
Nor is cups if you have no printer.
Nor httpd, samba, bind...
I could not find a good list for a desktop of the services
you really need. It is a bit of trial and error, but this
is a good way to learn what those services do.
Ubuntu should have a description of each service.

The list of mounted file does not show the swap partition.
That is strange bec top shows some swap info
Can you post /etc/fstab
and the result of sudo mount
I am probably looking at the wrong thing
 
Old 01-03-2006, 08:12 AM   #19
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What kind of graphics card do you have? I am using a 997 MHz (133 MHz FSB) machine with 512MB RAM, and it was running fairly slow. After enabling 4X AGP for the card in the X server configuration, the machine was more responsive, stealing less CPU and memory. (If you only have 1X AGP, the CPU has to carry more load.) It's just a thought, because this happened to me recently. I was happy to find out it was an easy thing to fix, once I knew what the problem was.
 
Old 01-03-2006, 08:32 AM   #20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badgerbox76
I am useing an installed verson of Ubuntu, and i cant see any real mem hogs so i just dont know why it is so slow

Here is what i got from hdparm command:

nos@ubuntu:~$ su
Password:
root@ubuntu:/home/nos# hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
Timing cached reads: 284 MB in 2.02 seconds = 140.89 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 30 MB in 3.17 seconds = 9.46 MB/sec
root@ubuntu:/home/nos#

Ouch!

Forget everything else. You're not getting anywhere until you fix that. DMA is lying to you.

Try disabling PCI BusMaster in the bios.
 
Old 01-04-2006, 02:40 AM   #21
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@davcefai: You put a lot of time in discribing the use of the bios but I know how that works. My timings are not-oc'd and my ram works ok. Memtest86 still runs after 24 hours. I don't really have bad ram. It's 2x 512mb Corsair Value Select 333mhz. The memload in winxp is around 1-3%.

My problem is that I don't really know how to deal with the console. I gues I should follow a Unix tutorial somewhere. I mean I am a newb in terms of all not-windows software. Do I need to post all my hardware here?

Quote:
Originally Posted by michapma
What kind of graphics card do you have?
Powercolour ATI Radeon 9800 pro 128mb r350 core + Zalman dual heatpipe cooler + Zalman fan@normal speed (not-oc'd, I just want it to be stable)

Quote:
Originally Posted by michapma
If you only have 1X AGP, the CPU has to carry more load
The motherboard can't deal with AGP 1x It runs at agp3.?x

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk
Can you post /etc/fstab
Quote:
# /etc/fstab -- static file system information
# auto generation: on
# generated by: /sbin/etcdev2fstab
#
# NOTE: to make this file readable, it has been formatted for 132 columns
#
#<device> <mountpoint> <fstype> <options> <dbg> <pass>
/dev/hda1 / reiserfs rw 0 0
/dev/cdroms/hdc /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev,exec,user,noauto,async,unhide 0 0
/dev/cdroms/hdd /media/cdrom1 iso9660 ro,nosuid,nodev,exec,user,noauto,async,unhide 0 0
/dev/floppy/0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,nosuid,nodev,exec,nouser,noauto,async 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs rw,devmode=0666 0 0
/boot/linux-swap.swp none swap sw 0 0
Oops Does this means I don't have any swap? :P

Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk
and the result of sudo mount
What is sudo mount?

Shall I post here all processes(86)? Its too much too fit a 1280x1024 screen

memory and swap(the mem is typed over from a gui so its not precisely correct (it changes a few kb's all the time) the swap is constantly the same):
Quote:
Memory: 903,792 KB used, 2,592 KB free
Swap: 1,652 KB used, 552,628 KB free
These results came from using the filebrowser, XMMS(1 song, holded) 2x Mozilla (no tabs used) and a system load monitor(desktop1, viewed) and BitTornado donwloading a 7gig iso (dektop2, not viewed) after a clean install of Xandros 3 Deluxe.

Last edited by V!NCENT; 01-04-2006 at 03:05 AM.
 
Old 01-04-2006, 03:21 AM   #22
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You have a swap :-). Usually in linux swap is a different
partition. But xandros seems to do it differently and
use the file /boot/linux-swap.swp
Whether this can impact speed compared to a swap partition, I have little idea. I suppose not.

"Sudo is a bit like su". On some distro instead of being root one is required to use sudo. But one can sudo su, and become root (I think). anyway no need to post the mount output, nor the processes.

can you post again hdparm -Tt /dev/hda
now that you tweaked the system (you will need the X69 etc hdparm command after each boot)
Did you notice an improvement in speed?

I have ran out of idea why your pc is sluggish.

If you have room on your pc hd, it is worth adding another distro and contrasting
 
Old 01-04-2006, 06:45 AM   #23
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Quote:
My problem is that I don't really know how to deal with the console. I gues I should follow a Unix tutorial somewhere.
It's a lot easier than you would think. The real difficulty is knowing which command to run.

Often the apropos command helps. You type in apropos <something> and back comes a list of commands/functions related to that something.

Next read the man page: man <command> and go from there.

I agree it is easier if you have used, say, DOS in the past.

About your speed problem, I, out of ideas, sorry.
 
Old 01-04-2006, 05:06 PM   #24
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WOW Geting alot of support here, thats GREAT!!!!
 
Old 01-05-2006, 02:56 AM   #25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by badgerbox76
WOW Geting alot of support here, thats GREAT!!!!
Oops I think we are trying to solve my problem in his thread
But I just wanted to know how to turn on DMA.

If I am not mistaken, Xandros used a swap partition @ the installation

*EDIT: oh wait you were not sarcastic?

Last edited by V!NCENT; 01-05-2006 at 02:57 AM.
 
Old 01-05-2006, 03:06 AM   #26
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fdisk -l
will list your partitions, and their type
 
Old 01-06-2006, 08:51 AM   #27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk
fdisk -l
will list your partitions, and their type
Do I have fdisk?
Quote:
vincent@XANUZQOHU48:~$ fdisk -l
bash: fdisk: command not found
I have never seen the Xandros installer on a different dristribution before. (fdisk comes with Gentoo, SuSE uses Yast)
 
Old 01-06-2006, 08:52 AM   #28
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you need to be su superuser to run fdisk
 
Old 01-08-2006, 09:51 AM   #29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmanuel_uk
you need to be su superuser to run fdisk
Oops, forgot
Results maistro!!!:
Quote:
XANUZQOHU48:~# fdisk -l

Disk /dev/hda: 122.9 GB, 122942324736 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14946 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/hda1 * 1 14946 120053713+ 83 Linux
 
Old 01-11-2006, 06:01 AM   #30
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you have only hda1 as 1 big partition.
So you dot not have a swap partition, but we saw earlier
that a file swap is used instead

>>Xandros used a swap partition @ the installation
scratching head here as well, apparently not

Vincent,
What does look bad is that you do not have at least 2 partitions
You should have one partition just for your data
So when you upgrade or change linux version you do not jeopardise your data.
A partition is easier to backup as well (in some ways)

Be sure to create a home partition
What is your newest hdparm -Tt /dev/hda

As I said, short of idea. Consider installing something else (Mandriva, Suse, vector 5.1...).

PS: Make 2 or 3 6GB partitions at the start of the HD to be able to test various linux

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