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Old 08-20-2014, 04:22 PM   #16
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I have installed bootchart and tried to attach the resulting .png file. How can I attach this file as it 722Kb which is too large.
Also I have now installed Linux Mint17 in a partition on the faster hard drive. It also takes 6 mins to boot - just marginally quicker.
too large?
Print it as pdf and post it. Perhaps the size willbe reduced.
Boot with another live sytem (knoppix etc.) and post any "dmeag > dmesg.txt" file here, too.
6 min is loooonnnng.
 
Old 08-20-2014, 04:45 PM   #17
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OK, it seems that there is a problem with your network card or its driver.
Does the network card work reliably in Windows? If so it is possible that this is a driver problem. It may help to try an older or newer kernel, to see if this is a regression or probably already fixed in a newer kernel version.
I am using an MSI US54SE II usb to connect wirelessly with my router and am able to use the internet and comunicate with Windows7 computers on my network. So presumably Linux has found a suitable driver for it.
Also WindowsXP on the same computer as Linux has no trouble with the US54SE II.
 
Old 08-20-2014, 04:50 PM   #18
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I am not talking about your wireless device, but the inbuilt Broadcom Ethernet chip on your motherboard. If you don't use wired connections disable the onboard network chip in your BIOS and see if that improves boot times, it should do so significantly.
 
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I am not talking about your wireless device, but the inbuilt Broadcom Ethernet chip on your motherboard. If you don't use wired connections disable the onboard network chip in your BIOS and see if that improves boot times, it should do so significantly.
I disabled the onboard LAN in the BIOS and re-booted. It has reduce the boot time to 4 mins which is still a long time. Attached is the resuling dmesg file
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Your system is spending an enormous amount of time to set up the harddisk and DVD-ROM correctly, ultimately setting them down to really slow transfer rates which of course slows down the boot significantly. Since there where already problems with the network device I would tend to one of these causes for that behavior:
1. Your power supply is faulty and causes those malfunctions
2. Your RAM is faulty, causing the system to not setting up itself correctly
3. Your motherboard is dying

From my experience I would tend to the third option, but you can easily test at least the second option using Memtest86+ and the first if you have a spare PSU.
 
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Your system is spending an enormous amount of time to set up the harddisk and DVD-ROM correctly, ultimately setting them down to really slow transfer rates which of course slows down the boot significantly. Since there where already problems with the network device I would tend to one of these causes for that behavior:
1. Your power supply is faulty and causes those malfunctions
2. Your RAM is faulty, causing the system to not setting up itself correctly
3. Your motherboard is dying

From my experience I would tend to the third option, but you can easily test at least the second option using Memtest86+ and the first if you have a spare PSU.
My BIOS Health shows the Power supply voltages to be OK.
The Memtest86+ passes 100% for all the 4Gb of memory installed.
The Linux Disk self-test shows that the 300Gb disk that holds both WindowsXP and Linux Mint17 is OK, but either Old-Age or Pre-Fail on each of the attributes.
Previously I had done a Benchmark test which showed a transfer rate of 47Mb/s.
WindowsXP boots up in 2.5 mins to the logon screen.
 
Old 08-21-2014, 10:27 AM   #22
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too large?
Print it as pdf and post it. Perhaps the size willbe reduced.
Boot with another live sytem (knoppix etc.) and post any "dmeag > dmesg.txt" file here, too.
6 min is loooonnnng.
I have booted from a Linux DVD and run dmesg > dmesg.txt. The result is attached.
I have tried to reduce the size of bootchart image file but can't do any less than the png file at 625Kb.
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Last edited by Brian4882; 08-21-2014 at 11:09 AM.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 08:09 AM   #23
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I have wiped and formatted to NTFS the 40Gb HD that Linux was on and installed Linux Mint17 on a partition of a WindowsXP 300Gb HD. The Linux is still slow to boot with the 40Gb HD in the system but is resonably fast to boot with the 40Gb HD removed.
So, I conclude that the 40Gb drive was the culprit.
 
Old 09-15-2014, 03:09 PM   #24
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Looking at your last dmesg output many of the delays during the boot process seem to cause 30 seconds delay. This and some of the error messages make it look like the issue is related to what's described here:

http://www.smythies.com/~doug/network/hd_race/

This site claims that the issue is related to a bug introduced somewhere in Ubuntu 12.04.
You could test this hypothesis by downloading an iso image of ubuntu older than that (or maybe a completely different distro) and look a live boot with that. You obviously don't want to install such an old distro, but if you can confirm the root cause this way you can then look at better solutions.
 
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I have tried to reduce the size of bootchart image file but can't do any less than the png file at 625Kb.
At this point I don't think boot chart will be of much help (see my previous post) but generally speaking you can use gimp to scale images with a gui or, as a more light weight solution, the command-line utility mogrify, which is part of ImageMagick
 
  


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