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Old 10-18-2010, 04:12 PM   #16
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Most of what needs to be said has been said, but there are a few extra things. Support is inportant, so picking a distribution with sketchy support, or embroiled in distro politics, may lead you to have to start over again at some point. Not the end of the world, but there it is.

Similarly, some distros (eg Fedora) have short turnover rates which are similarly inconvenient fot the non-hobbyist. In that respect, one of the Ubuntu LTS versions (10.04) is preferable over the latest (10.10). Mint seems fine in this regard, as far as I can tell, although it is a young distro...

The support for Slackware is great on this forum, though there's no doubt Slackware has a reputation. One advantage about ordering a Slackware DVD is that the whole distro is on the disk, so there's no extensive downloading after an initial CD install, which you'd have to do with the Ubuntu CD. Slackware comes with a relatively complete set of tools too, unlike, say, the OpenSUSE DVD, which lacks development tools.
 
Old 10-18-2010, 04:45 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by Hatman KZN View Post
Hello again Guys and Guyesses. (the saviours of my sanity)

Following your advice I went looking for Ubuntu Mint
There are 5 versions and the write-up on some of them is a bit off putting.
So I had me a gander at the latest Ubuntu release. (Ubuntu 10.10) and before I knew where I was I had downloaded it, using up almost all of my monthly bandwidth allowance.
Dratt. Botherations and Dang !!!!

Then came the tricky bit. Installing it. That is where the fan came into play.

To cut a long story down to a mini series:-
I got a black screen with this message.
(initransfs) cannot mount / devloop0 (cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs) on / filesystem.squashfs
Enter help for a list of built in commands


When I entered help I got another screen with (built in commands) and a lot of gobbletygook on it


So now what? It looks like a long creek and I'm a tad short on paddles

HELP !!!!!!

Pretty please with sugar on.

Hatman

Ps I do not really suffer from insanity.
I enjoy every moment of it.
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hi there Ubuntu is one of the better for "new" users
and installing a operating system is a "learning experience".Most folk have never done it before ( the computer came with a version of windows on it )
so if at first you don't succeed .....

a few questions
1) are you planning to "dual boot" ?
have windows AND linux installed on the same machine
( most new users like that because if they mess up the linux install they can still get on the net and ask for help )

2) only have linux installed ?
if Ubuntu is to be on a second computer in the home and there is a second computer you can use to ask for help .This is a good choice

---- from that ----
we can help you in deciding on ether a partition layout for a dual boot .Or wiping out a windows install and putting only linux on the
computer

the install dvd has the tools built in for the repartitioning
with one exception
if windows 7 is installed and you are going to dual boot you need to use the Microsoft tools in wn7 to resize the partitions on the drive
 
Old 10-18-2010, 05:56 PM   #18
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There is an educated way to approach distros.

1. Do they have a graphical installer? Fedora has a great GUI installer, anyone could use it and leave windows intact. Mandriva and Ubuntu have good ones as well but Fedoras is a little nicer.
2. How long are they updated for? This really is not a big deal as long as the initial release was done right. Fedora is supported less than Ubuntu or Mandriva with updates. You can install programs using the GUI well past this point.
3. Are they trivial. Are they different and actually less functional by trying to create there own identity. Example: The hundred or so variations of Ubuntu!
4. Are the menus logical. I just installed Fedora 13 and the menus are stupid. When you shop for groceries they are not arranged by the meal you are going to cook but have all the same types of food in the same sections. You dont have an aisle for casseroles do you no. All the veggies are in the produce and so on. Menus should be so that you can associate well with them and not have to think. If you have to think about them they are not serving their purpose.
5.Online support. I find that the more support offered for popular distros the more help that is needed for them. There is not more support for more users it's more support for more problems.
6. GUI: Can you navigate in the desktop environment by association and open up a dialog box or helper menu or must you go on a forum and hope someone can help you?
7.Do you want a completely meaningless interaction to Linux or do you want to get beyond this.
8. Do you want to have black magic knowledge to just be able to get on the web and have your printer work?

In my own opinion I would look over Fedora. I like the RedHat connection myself and they did innovate a lot of important Linux stuff but it is not a good distro for your first and it's a little too polished for your second. I'm about ready to give up on trying to use their GUI to install software packages.I have had similar problems with Mandriva 10 but I have a menu to find out what is wrong.

Mandriva is simular to windows as far as menus go. If any Distro has a chance to compete with windows market share it would be them. Mandriva 10 has not been as good as Mandriva 08 for me. You can install old versions, just Google it. You can't get updates but can install software though. I think Mandriva is the best beginners Distro and also if you appreciate a logical GUI, menus, and having the utilities bunched in one application similar to windows. It's all about the UTILITIES.


Ubuntu makes a respectable Distro. I my try them again. I used 7.10 an they made a big deal over pass word stuff. I think they try too hard to be a recreation home users Distro and this actually makes it harder.

I recommend an older Mandriva version. Get all the applications you need installed and then start to use the utilities ,all the "Drake Stuff". If Mandriva is too boring for you try Ubuntu but I think Ubuntu makes things a choir that don't have to be.

All the Distros have something good about them. If you have a major problem on the first install try installing it again.

Serendipity to All!

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