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textillis 05-12-2013 11:32 AM

slackware: freshly made image won't boot
 
Hi folks,
I"m a would-be slacker with a primitive problem:
I've just made an image from this:
http://www.slackware.com/torrents/sl...ll-dvd.torrent

Burned it with Brasero at a modest speed (showed restraint given how excited i was at prospect of seeing Slack splash across my screen before bed)

Went for reboot ..... nothing! machine will not boot from the burn!

Checked bios, settings all good.

Have i missed something really so close and small it is right under my nose?

Thanks in anticipation,
Tex

spiky0011 05-12-2013 11:38 AM

Hi

Did you check the md5sum of the iso it should have been on the download page.
And you said that your machine is set to boot from cd 1st

spiky0011 05-12-2013 11:41 AM

Hi

This link has downloads + md5sum of iso,s
http://mirrors.slackware.com/slackwa...ware-14.0-iso/

Z038 05-12-2013 02:52 PM

The link in spiky's post above is for the 32-bit version of Slackware 14.0. The torrent you referenced in your first post was for the 64-bit version. I just wanted to point that out. The 64-bit direct ISO download from the Slackware mirror site is http://mirrors.slackware.com/slackwa...re64-14.0-iso/.

Have you verified that the burned DVD matched the ISO? Most burner software has an option you can specify to tell it to verify the burn. You can also use cmp or you can compare the md5sum of the DVD and the ISO. For example:

cmp /dev/dvd /path/to/foo.iso

or

md5sum /path/to/foo.iso
md5sum /dev/dvd

frankbell 05-12-2013 07:58 PM

I have burned dozens of *.ISOs and there was the time long after I should have known better that I forgot to use the "burn image" tool and ended up with yet another copy of the *.ISO file instead of a replication of the optical disk.

textillis 05-12-2013 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbell (Post 4949813)
I have burned dozens of *.ISOs and there was the time long after I should have known better that I forgot to use the "burn image" tool and ended up with yet another copy of the *.ISO file instead of a replication of the optical disk.

thanks Frank: my mistake was different, but similarly fundamental: i burned the whole package, *not* the iso, to my target....

covered in momentary shame,
but braced in spirit and girded in loins by the salutary effect of self-accusation,

Tex

textillis 05-12-2013 11:05 PM

made a very simple mistake; sorry for wasting your time
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spiky0011 (Post 4949610)
Hi

This link has downloads + md5sum of iso,s
http://mirrors.slackware.com/slackwa...ware-14.0-iso/

It is well said that a group of wise men will unwisely let a wittle witless wanker into their midst, but, in this case you guys have avoided that mistake and admitted an inversely precocious linux prodigy into your fellowship:

I burned the whole package!!!!! not thinking to open up what i had downloaded and, you know, take a look inside the nice little package first ....

red-cheeked but not ruinously,
re-committing myself to the arduous assault on Mount Slack (or die in the attempt)

Tex-tenuated

textillis 05-12-2013 11:11 PM

Thanks Z
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Z038 (Post 4949708)
The link in spiky's post above is for the 32-bit version of Slackware 14.0. The torrent you referenced in your first post was for the 64-bit version. I just wanted to point that out. The 64-bit direct ISO download from the Slackware mirror site is http://mirrors.slackware.com/slackwa...re64-14.0-iso/.

Have you verified that the burned DVD matched the ISO? Most burner software has an option you can specify to tell it to verify the burn. You can also use cmp or you can compare the md5sum of the DVD and the ISO. For example:

cmp /dev/dvd /path/to/foo.iso

or

md5sum /path/to/foo.iso
md5sum /dev/dvd

Kindly read my responses to other contributions to this thread; awfully good of you to respond Z!
Cheers,
T

textillis 05-12-2013 11:37 PM

Is it possible that the sandisk is not linux compatible?
 
Okay, Z, Frank and Spikey:
-I've made a usb iso from the 2.4GB file and checked with md5sum and confirmed that it is all good.
- I have rechecked my bios settings (earlier the device in question had been default set as "excluded" from the "startup" list)
-I set it in second place, just after my first and only CD drive

Still!!!!!! no go!!!!!!!!!arhghghghghg

I'm really trying here, really working with you guys: and i respectfully acknowledge your budha like magnanimity and equanimity if you continue to help...
but please! what else could it be??

Here are the specs for the device
Device: 32GB Thumb Drive
Model: SanDisk Cruzer Slice (1.20)

Edit: i'm going to buy me some old-fashioned 3.7GB discs and get to the botty of this problem. Meanwhile, guys, any asserverations, deliberations -yea, commiserations- or contributions would be, as I said above, most welcome (and kharmicly good for you)

Z038 05-13-2013 12:07 AM

How did you create the bootable USB thumb drive? Slackware ships with a file called usbboot.img in the usb-and-pxe-installers folder. It boots into the Slackware installer. It doesn't include the packages to be installed, so you'll need to be able to reference a copy on your hard drive, or loop mounted ISO. The README_USB.TXT file in that directory has full instructions.

There are other tools you could use to create a bootable USB thumb drive, like UNetbootin, isotousb, LinuxLive USB Creator, and probably others, but since you are trying to install Slackware, you might as well use the supplied USB boot image.

Edit: AlienBob describes another method for making a USB thumb drive to boot the Slackware installer here:
http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/inst...b-thumb-drive/

textillis 05-13-2013 01:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Z038 (Post 4949881)
How did you create the bootable USB thumb drive? Slackware ships with a file called usbboot.img in the usb-and-pxe-installers folder. It boots into the Slackware installer. It doesn't include the packages to be installed, so you'll need to be able to reference a copy on your hard drive, or loop mounted ISO. The README_USB.TXT file in that directory has full instructions.

There are other tools you could use to create a bootable USB thumb drive, like UNetbootin, isotousb, LinuxLive USB Creator, and probably others, but since you are trying to install Slackware, you might as well use the supplied USB boot image.

Edit: AlienBob describes another method for making a USB thumb drive to boot the Slackware installer here:
http://alien.slackbook.org/blog/inst...b-thumb-drive/

Thanks kindly Z;
I'm on it!
Tex

textillis 05-13-2013 05:57 AM

Addendum to usb problem.
I have just finished installing Slack 14 off an image i burned to a DVD.
Toward the end of install process, I got the option to plug a usb in and have it made a bootable device "for taking me directly to the partition holding my slackware installation"; after plugging it in and hitting enter, I got message saying that usb wasn't recognized.
Could this be a definitive answer as to why usb efforts have all been in vain: usb device itself is either unrecognizable under linux or is broken?

Another problem now:
again, toward end of install, at Lilo option, I opted out, thinking that since grub controlled my other OS (mint 14) on adjacent partition, that it might also give me option to boot into Slack....
no such luck...

I reboot, up pops grub, with the old options but still, STILL!, no slackware...

I will go hunting for a solution; meanwhile, anyone reading this with an answer, I would greatly appreciate it.

TobiSGD 05-13-2013 08:15 AM

You have to make Grub aware of the Slackware installation, boot into your Mint install and run
Code:

sudo update-grub
It will scan your disk(s) and add all installations it recognizes to the boot-menu.

textillis 05-13-2013 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD (Post 4950099)
You have to make Grub aware of the Slackware installation, boot into your Mint install and run
Code:

sudo update-grub
It will scan your disk(s) and add all installations it recognizes to the boot-menu.

Thanks.
Now I have mint and slack installed, with lilo in control.
Which is fine, except that now, when lilo loads mint, i have no mouse nor keyboard.

I suspect this is due to an option i selected in slack install to do with mouse use in terminal.

I have also to get an internet connection happening, nor have i worked out how to get the gui: xfce, which i bargained for.

So many questions...

Thanks for the suggestion re Grub; i may have to go back to it.

But i've spent hours in the install/re-install process; i think i must draw a line in the sand and work out my problems at the command line with man pages.

textillis 05-14-2013 09:06 AM

Thanks for help everyone.
I have finally got a gui working in slackware 14, with an internet connection which kde netmanager set up for me like a gracious valet.

Now let the work and the fun begin!

Tex
edit: Just to note, that after dozens of installs, each time electing NOT to install lilo, and not succeeding, I finally submitted and took the lilo option, et voila!, I was at home base with a gui tweaked to my humble needs and an internet connection the next day.
thx again for all help


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