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Old 03-30-2006, 10:21 AM   #1
Dogman2
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Is there a distrobution which is simple to install which has the necessary files needed to get up and running. Having tried Xandros Ubuntu Mandrake 10.1 none have all the files to get up and running with internet connections. The other files needed are available for downloading but how can you download a file when you get connected in the first place ?

I am disappointed with the 'best thing ever' talk of linux but for most people it is still behind the "other OS" in terms of simplicity especially for the non technically minded, in as much put the CD or DVD in the drive and an hour later your'e away.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 10:29 AM   #2
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I'd suggest Fedora, it's simple to install and works like a charm, also when you ask for help here, you might want to at least give some details, such as what kind of connection you have, since things don't all work the same way. I never had any problems getting my dsl up and running from linux.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 10:30 AM   #3
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but for most people it is still behind the "other OS" in terms of simplicity
You are trying to install a free OS, and complaining because it isn't as easy as the one that costs hundreds of dollars.

Any distro should get you up and connected to the internet with the initial install. I you want a system with a zombie interface, and that any 'non technically minded' person can install with his eys shut, you're in the wrong place. If you want to understand what it takes to manage a computer, keep trying.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 10:30 AM   #4
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First of all, how will you be connected to the internet? Dialup? Broadband? Wireless? You need to provide more information if you want someone to assist you.

...even Windows requires configuration to connect to the internet (along with driver installation for other hardware), so what is your complaint?
 
Old 03-30-2006, 10:56 AM   #5
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Try Fedora or Suse

If you want simple then you're probably looking for Suse.
Has the control center to make it even easier than it already is.
You will still need to know basic Linux commands and especially how to use a shell (command prompt). Don't give up.

Good Luck
 
Old 03-30-2006, 11:17 AM   #6
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What They Said

Please clarify your difficulties, provide hardware specs, and the connection you're using.

I'm puzzled since of all the distributions I've sampled, only one has ever given any installation difficulties. Certainly none of the ones you've named have been anything other than the simple installation process you seek.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 11:50 AM   #7
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simple installation

Hello Again

I was trying to connect via adsl with a speedtouch 330 via a usb port on Ubuntu, Xandross, neither of the installation discs have the necessary files to enable me to complete the installation. The pppconf comes back with an error message saying that it is not installed. The device manager has it listed. A friend downloaded the driver from the speedtouch site. Now the floppy drive is not present.
When I connected the same modem on my windoze machine I put the cd in the drive, software was loaded, plugged in the modem in restared and was away.
I am not technically minded, do not understand what a shell is, when ever I have tried to use a command line in the past the file is non existant or the wrong command is used.

Frustrations I could do without. I married one of them.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 12:30 PM   #8
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SO you followed this how-to to setup the Speddtouch USB modem in Ubuntu Linux ?
http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/

Do you have the option of getting a Modem with an Ethernet port instead of USB ? I always ask for that wether I'm running windows or Linux because I usually insert a router or firewall between the Modem and my PC.. also makes installation as easy as falling down the stairs.. no drivers to mess with, etc...
 
Old 03-30-2006, 12:52 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by Dogman2
I am not technically minded, do not understand what a shell is, when ever I have tried to use a command line in the past the file is non existant or the wrong command is used.

Frustrations I could do without. I married one of them.
sounds like you don't want to use linux, then maybe you should just go back to Windows, linux takes some getting used to, you'll find that there's a lot of frustration at first, but you'll learn. I was forced into linux, my ex installed slackware (back then slack 2.0) on my box and that's all I had access too, I swallowed my pride and after a week I was doing just fine, mind you back then things were a bit more complicated than they are now.

I'd suggest that you hook up your modem with an rj45 rather than with usb, when I worked for an isp, most users who called in with issues that had to do with their modem, were using usb.

I've got dsl and I generally just use rp-pppoe (tkpppoe) it's always worked just fine for me, there's probably some newer solutions, but I haven't bothered to look for something newer.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 04:13 PM   #10
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I am not technically minded, do not understand what a shell is, when ever I have tried to use a command line in the past the file is non existant or the wrong command is used.

Frustrations I could do without. I married one of them.
Linux might not be for you, as you'll find the command line is something you'll need to touch at least once or twice.
If you'd be willing to learn, there is a nice beginner's tutorial here and on the next page:
http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l6/lesson6a.html
http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/l6/lesson6b.html
Which is part of this larger tutorial which you might find helpful:
http://www.linux.org/lessons/beginner/toc.html
 
Old 03-30-2006, 05:18 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by farslayer
SO you followed this how-to to setup the Speddtouch USB modem in Ubuntu Linux ?
http://www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/

Do you have the option of getting a Modem with an Ethernet port instead of USB ? I always ask for that wether I'm running windows or Linux because I usually insert a router or firewall between the Modem and my PC.. also makes installation as easy as falling down the stairs.. no drivers to mess with, etc...
I dont have the option of an ethernet port
I copied the necessary file from www.linux-usb.org/SpeedTouch/ubuntu/ onto a floppy but the floppy drive is not recognised or available. I cannot find it anywhere. Theres no icon or anything which looks like a floppy drive.
 
Old 03-30-2006, 05:26 PM   #12
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I'm not sure about GNOME, but under Kubuntu all floppies get automounted. Check in /media/floppy (or something similar - if it's not there, poke around elsewhere in media). If that doesn't work, you'll need to automatically mount it with:
Code:
mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
(Type that into the command line.)
 
Old 03-31-2006, 08:00 AM   #13
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Originally Posted by sumguy231
I'm not sure about GNOME, but under Kubuntu all floppies get automounted. Check in /media/floppy (or something similar - if it's not there, poke around elsewhere in media). If that doesn't work, you'll need to automatically mount it with:
Code:
mount /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
(Type that into the command line.)
When I tried that I got the message 'you must specify the file system type Permission denied'

Had a poke around found a floppy device under the disk manager and the floppy there is list as a Fijitsu 6.2 GB which is the Hard drive.
 
  


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