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Old 05-08-2004, 10:18 PM   #1
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Setting up ethernet printer


YDL 3.0.1
iMac with only YDL installed, no Mac OS partition
Ethernet -> switch -> Apple LaserWriter Pro 630
USB -> hub -> HP LaserJet 2100M + Epson Stylus Photo 1200 +How do I find Epson Stylus C42UX
ie none of the printers is connected directly to any computer.
All printers work from my G4 Mac connected to the hub and the switch.

In YDL System Settings -> Printing -> New -> enter Queue name (I presume name of printer) -> "Select a queue type" --> Huh?

What's a "queue"? a "queue type"?

Are my printers "Locally connected"? "Rescan devices" -> nil
Other options include: IPP, LPD, SMB, NCP, Networked JetDirect.
No mention of Ethernet or USB.

Custom device -> "For example: /dev/lp0" What does that mean?

In playing around, I got a request for an IP address somewhere.
How do I find an IP address for the ethernet printer?

Obviously I haven't a clue here.
How do I get to print to a printer?

I need a step by step set of instructions that assume that I know nothing!
Or, is there a book? "Running Linux" is a bit advanced for me.

Thanx
 
Old 05-09-2004, 12:40 AM   #2
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lp0 stands for line-printer ... something connected to
a parallel port (usually).

What you want is the JetDirect option.



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Old 05-09-2004, 09:55 AM   #3
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Thanks for your reply.
I'm not sure where to go with this.

The Mac has no parallel port.
It has USB , Firewire, and ethernet connections only.

JetDirect uses port 9100 (hp-pdl-datastream).
I presume that applies to the HP machine specifically.

I want to print to the LaserWrite Pro 630 which is connected to an ethernet switch, to which my iMac is also connected via ethernet.
 
Old 05-09-2004, 03:00 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by amaloney
JetDirect uses port 9100 (hp-pdl-datastream).
I presume that applies to the HP machine specifically.
Nope, not HP specific. Also used by CUPS.


Just use it :)


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Old 05-09-2004, 03:16 PM   #5
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WILCO, but -
What do I put in for "Printer hostname or IP address"?

I put in LW_Pro_630 but get msg "Failed to write queues".

Thanks
 
Old 05-09-2004, 03:20 PM   #6
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well for hp networkable printers, you set a fixed ip address from the printer itself (that's what i did for mine). i'm not really sure in your case though as i don't know how the mac interfaces to communicate to the printer. but maybe there's some configuration menus on your printer itself that you can see what ip address it's using and then put that ip address in the printer configuration of your linux machine. the command used by most (all?) my applications for printing is
"lpr -P print_queue_name_assigned_by_me_when_configuring_printer"

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Quote:
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I put in LW_Pro_630 but get msg "Failed to write queues".
The printers IP address would be a good idea.
If you have it listed in your /etc/hosts you should
be able to use it's name, alternatively.


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Old 05-09-2004, 10:29 PM   #8
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I can find a MAC address for my printer, but no group of four octets for an IP address.
It does not work anywhere.
The ethernet connection is working, as I can go online through it attached to my cable modem.

I think I need to do some reading.
I understand that YDL is essentially RedHat Linux.
Therefore I will go to the book store in the next few days.
Is there any book to be recommended for newbies such as me?

Gratefully
 
Old 05-09-2004, 11:46 PM   #9
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What is the printer connected to, a hub, a switch,
a router? Have you got DHCP going on that LAN
of yours?
Either way, try to do a broadcast ping on your subnet,
and see whether that printer is answering.



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Old 05-10-2004, 08:42 AM   #10
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I guess my original post was too obscure and contains an error.

I have an ethernet network.
The Imac is connected to an ethernet switch.
The LaserWriter Pro 630 is connected to that switch.

My G4 Mac is connected to the switch.
The switch is connected to a router which is connected to the cable modem.

I can go online with the iMac, so the ethernet network is functioning.
I can print from the G4 Mac, so the printer is functioning and that aspect of the network is functioning.

Is there something missing in my installation?
I wouldn't know how to find out.

I think I am out of my depth here and need to learn more.
For instance:
DHCP ?
DHCP running on my LAN ?
queue ? (to me = a line of things or people)
printer queue ?
queue type ?
IPP, LRP, LRD ?
hostname - where is it ?
etc, etc, etc

Thanks for your help.
I really feel that I should do some homework insread of using other people's valuable time.
I'd like to get some references. However, even "Running Linux" from O"Reilly is too advanced for me.
 
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Quote:
Originally posted by amaloney
I can go online with the iMac, so the ethernet network is functioning.
I can print from the G4 Mac, so the printer is functioning and that aspect of the network is functioning.
Where do those two get their IP addresses from?

Does the printer have a setup menu that allows to
print configuration data or modify netowrk settings?

I used to have an ancient model that I sold when I
gave my LC II to my mom :) ... that one would support
AppleTalk and Tcp/Ip ...


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