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Old 03-06-2014, 07:16 AM   #1
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Setting Up A Dual Boot With A Linux Distro and Windows 8.1


Members on this forum have been especially helpful to me in the past, and I really have appreciated the advice.

Please help with some step by step advice for a relative newbie:
Just purchased an HP Envy 700-056/700-216 Desktop Computer With AMD A10 Quad-Core Accelerated Processor, 12 Gigs or RAM, and a 2 terrabyte HDD and Windows 8.1.
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The new Windows 8.1 is a totally new beastie to me and I'm lost.

Could someone please tell me how ti install a Linux distro into this computer and set up a dual boot with that distro and Windows 8.1? Assume that I know nothing about Windows 8.1.

My distro of choice is Linux Mint Debian Edition UP8.
I have the iso on a disk, HDD, and stick.

Since I'm a pretty simple person, I need some step by step instructions as to how to do this. I have partition the 2 TB HDD granting 500 Gigs to Windows 8.1 and reserving 1.3 TB for LMDE.

Thanks for any assistance and help. The techies at Office Depot are also having trouble setting this up. I purchased a "common" enough computer so that parts, service, and assistance would be easily available for a long time in the future. My last new computer is a 2001 unit. (My nearest Office Depot is 3.5 miles away.).

Thanks for reading my post and I would really appreciate the advice, assistance, and instructions.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:02 AM   #2
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with just one example,
"Seven ways to set up multi-booting with Windows 8 and Linux"

http://www.zdnet.com/seven-ways-to-s...ux-7000026392/

but, there are others .. ..
 
Old 03-06-2014, 01:59 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reference. Have notified the guy trying to get my LMDE installed on my HP Envy alongside Windows 8.1. Will let you know the outcome.
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Old 03-16-2014, 05:49 PM   #4
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Firstly, thanks for responding to my question.
I posted this question on the HP forum since my computer is a brand new HP Envy 700 with a 2 TB HDD. Neither they nor the techies at the Office Depot where I purchased this computer can help me.

HP advised me to ask how to install Linux on a UEFI enabled W8 PC.

I've read the article link in a previous answer here, but frankly, I'm computer semi-literate. I do have an MD degree and did practice Internal medicine for 30 years, so I know I can eventually learn "computereze."

This is my first new computer in 13 years, and after spending bucks on it and finding out I can't get it to do what I want, I feel like I just spent my last buck on a flat coke.

Is there anyone on this forum who can give me a really simple walk-through on how to set up a dual boot with Windows 8.1 and a Linux distro on a UEFI enabled W8 PC?

I'd really appreciate any help, but assume I know nothing. Thus far the articles I've found are out of my computer semi-literate range. As a practicing physician, I learned early on to speak to patients and relatives as if they were in the 6th grade. That way few would be insulted, but almost everyone would understand me. Pretend I'm that 6th grader.
Thanks,
tlcmd (AKA Dick)

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Old 03-16-2014, 06:18 PM   #5
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Have you tried boot the Mint CD/DVD/flash drive? If so, what happens?

Windows 8 uses Secure Boot which should be disabled in the BIOS. You should also probably enable Legacy Boot if you have that option. If you have an HP computer, tapping the F10 key repeatedly when you see the HP boot screen should get you into the BIOS. There should be a message 'entering setup' or something similar. On the new screen you should see some options including Boot. Use the arrow keys to move to highlight it and hit the Enter key. You should see a number of options including the two I mentioned.

I don't use UEFI on my computers so I don't have any personal experience with it. Googling 'dual-booting Linux Mint with windows on uefi' got a number of hits so you might try that.
 
Old 03-16-2014, 07:07 PM   #6
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Yancek,
Thanks, but I've tried that and it didn't work. However, I will give the search you suggested a try. The chief problem I seem to run into is that most of these articles are not comprehensible to me as I am only computer semi-literate. However, I am a member of the local Linux Users Group which meets this coming Tuesday night. Weather and all permitting, I'll give it a go.
Thanks,
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Old 03-16-2014, 08:57 PM   #7
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Try reading the info at the sites below to start:

http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/1556

http://www.zdnet.com/seven-ways-to-s...ux-7000026392/
 
Old 03-17-2014, 05:07 AM   #8
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Just a small piece of advice: not a good idea to just post your email address like that; there are screen scraping bots that will pick it up and flood you with SPAM.
Suggest you remove it.
(Sorry I can't help with your qn.)
 
Old 03-17-2014, 09:54 AM   #9
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Thanks, but I've tried that and it didn't work.
Tried what?? Booting from a CD? DVD? Flash drive? Accessing the BIOS? Disabling Secure Boot? Enabling Legacy Boot? When you get several suggestions you need to be more specific in your response. If some particular suggestion did not work, it is best to respond with what happened when you tried. Nothing happened, my monitor exploded, etc!!

If you don't understand something in a tutorial, you can either do an online search if it is a specific term or post the question here with a reference to the page link you read it on, as a reference point.
 
Old 03-17-2014, 06:26 PM   #10
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I always suggest a free virtual machine. It gets past a lot of newbie issues like secure boot and nic cards and such until they get the hang of complex installs.

The steps for some virtual machines are download one of the choices like VMplayer, Virtualbox or VirtualPC and install it. Then it can be as simple as downloading a pre-made appliance and clicking on an icon. If you want to install a client in a vm you just create a virtual machine and use your downloaded iso attached as a cd to the client. You run both at the same time.

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Old 03-17-2014, 09:36 PM   #11
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I agree with not duel booting but a virtual machine. I've used virtual box and like it.
 
Old 03-17-2014, 10:16 PM   #12
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To enter the setup, you might need to start spamming F10 at the same time that you press the power button. On my Dell, there is about a half-second window for the F10 to get to the boot menu. Otherwise, Windows starts booting, and that's never a good sign.

If that doesn't work, try F1, F2, F12, DEL, and ESC.
 
Old 03-17-2014, 10:50 PM   #13
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Thanks for all the replies. I did remove my email address per your suggestion. I've used a virtual drive before, but to put Windows XP into Linux. I am actually very close to the point of keeping my windows restore partition and deleting the rest of the HDD and going with 64 bit LMDE (Mate). I'd have to purchase only one program (CrossoverLinux) since I have one freebie that only runs on Windows but can be run on Linux with Crossover.
I am meeting with someone at tomorrow evening's local Linux users group who says he can help me.

Thanks to all again.
tlcmd
 
  


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