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Old 01-25-2002, 07:59 PM   #1
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Screen to small :p


hello, im running Red Hat 7.0, actualy installed off of a disc in the back of SAMS teach yourself Red Hat linux, but ill assume that doesnt make a huge difference... anyways, when i open many different programs under x (well gnome/kde is all ive tried), they tend to run off the side of the screen. im using a monitor that supports 800X600, but only @ 56 hz.... and my ATI 3d Rage Pro Turbo wont go below 60 so im stuck in 640X480 . anyways, could anyone give me some advice on how i might remidify this situation? i have ran Xconfigurator quite a few times and told it 640X480 so ill assume that X knows what screen res i want
 
Old 01-26-2002, 12:27 AM   #2
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why don't you use 800x600 then more stuff will fit on the screen.

It also sounds like a virtual desktop is running, so you might have 800x600 desktop on 640x480 screen size.


have a look in the XF86Config-4 or XF86Config file at the screen section


Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "ATI Rage 128 Mobility"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultDepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1024x768"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Last edited by DavidPhillips; 01-26-2002 at 12:29 AM.
 
Old 01-26-2002, 01:17 PM   #3
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err i dont mean to be offensive at all, but htis is a quote from my orriginal post:
<quote>
. im using a monitor that supports 800X600, but only @ 56 hz.... and my ATI 3d Rage Pro Turbo wont go below 60 so im stuck in 640X480 .
</quote>
id LOVE to go to 800X600 (at least), i hate 640X480, but as it says im stuck in 640X480.
 
Old 01-26-2002, 08:58 PM   #4
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ok,

but your desktop is at 800x600, so you can't see it all at one time?
 
Old 01-26-2002, 09:15 PM   #5
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i have ran Xconfigurator quite a few times, and told it 640X480, as well as another program that i cant remember the name of at the moment that let me set my mouse correctly as well .
 
Old 01-27-2002, 12:02 AM   #6
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there is no line like this in the config file?


Virtual 800 600


when you move the mouse around does it move the desktop over to where you can see everything?


if not then I suggest that your monitor needs adjusting

Last edited by DavidPhillips; 01-27-2002 at 12:03 AM.
 
Old 01-27-2002, 04:16 PM   #7
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ok then, heres something for all the more expirienced people here to disect, this is a copy+paste of my /usr/X11R6/lib/XF86Config:
<config>
# File generated by XConfigurator.

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType"
FontPath "unix/:7100"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
#NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.
#DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.
#DontZoom

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Keyboard section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Keyboard"

Protocol "Standard"

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
#Protocol "Xqueue"

AutoRepeat 500 5

# Let the server do the NumLock processing. This should only be
# required when using pre-R6 clients
#ServerNumLock

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
#Xleds 1 2 3

#To set the LeftAlt to Meta, RightAlt key to ModeShift,
#RightCtl key to Compose, and ScrollLock key to ModeLock:

LeftAlt Meta
RightAlt Meta
ScrollLock Compose
RightCtl Control

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.

# XkbDisable

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# XkbModel "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# XkbModel "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# XkbLayout "de"
# or:
# XkbLayout "de"
# XkbVariant "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# XkbOptions "ctrl:swapcaps"

# These are the default XKB settings for XFree86
# XkbRules "xfree86"
# XkbModel "pc101"
# XkbLayout "us"
# XkbVariant ""
# XkbOptions ""

XkbKeycodes "xfree86"
XkbTypes "default"
XkbCompat "default"
XkbSymbols "us(pc101)"
XkbGeometry "pc"
XkbRules "xfree86"
XkbModel "pc101"
XkbLayout "us"
EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Pointer section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Pointer"
Protocol "Microsoft"
Device "/dev/mouse"
ZAxisMapping 4 5

# When using XQUEUE, comment out the above two lines, and uncomment
# the following line.

# Protocol "Xqueue"

# Baudrate and SampleRate are only for some Logitech mice

# BaudRate 9600
# SampleRate 150

# Emulate3Buttons is an option for 2-button Microsoft mice
# Emulate3Timeout is the timeout in milliseconds (default is 50ms)

# Emulate3Buttons
# Emulate3Timeout 50

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

# ChordMiddle

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

Identifier "My Monitor"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Unknown"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

HorizSync 31.5

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

VertRefresh 50-70

# Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or
# a multi-line format.

# These two are equivalent

# ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace

# Mode "1024x768i"
# DotClock 45
# HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264
# VTimings 768 776 784 817
# Flags "Interlace"
# EndMode

# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.

# 512x384 @ 78 Hz, 31.50 kHz hsync
Modeline "512x384" 20.160 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync
# 512x384 @ 85 Hz, 34.38 kHz hsync
Modeline "512x384" 22 512 528 592 640 384 385 388 404 -HSync -VSync

# 640x400 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x400" 25.175 640 664 760 800 400 409 411 450
# 640x400 @ 85 Hz, 37.86 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x400" 31.5 640 672 736 832 400 401 404 445 -HSync +VSync

# 640x480 @ 100 Hz, 53.01 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480" 45.8 640 672 768 864 480 488 494 530 -HSync -VSync
# 640x480 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480" 25.175 640 664 760 800 480 491 493 525
# 640x480 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "640x480" 31.5 640 680 720 864 480 488 491 521
# 640x480 @ 75 Hz, 37.50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "640x480" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -HSync -VSync
# 640x480 @ 85 Hz, 43.27 kHz hsync

Modeline "640x480" 36 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 100 Hz, 64.02 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 69.65 800 864 928 1088 600 604 610 640 -HSync -VSync
# 800x600 @ 56 Hz, 35.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "800x600" 36 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625
# 800x600 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 40 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 50 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600 @ 85 Hz, 55.84 kHz hsync
Modeline "800x600" 60.75 800 864 928 1088 600 616 621 657 -HSync -VSync

</config> <moves to next post because of space limits>
 
Old 01-27-2002, 04:29 PM   #8
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1024x480 for certain Vaios
Modeline "1024x480" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 491 493 525 -HSync -VSync

# 1024x768 @ 100Hz, 80.21 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 115.5 1024 1056 1248 1440 768 771 781 802 -HSync -VSync
# 1024x768 @ 60 Hz, 48.4 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 65 1024 1032 1176 1344 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1024x768 @ 70 Hz, 56.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 75 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync
# 1024x768 @ 76 Hz, 62.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 85 1024 1032 1152 1360 768 784 787 823
# 1024x768 @ 85 Hz, 70.24 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768" 98.9 1024 1056 1216 1408 768 782 788 822 -HSync -VSync

# 1152x864 @ 100 Hz, 89.62 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864" 137.65 1152 1184 1312 1536 864 866 885 902 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 60 Hz, 53.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864" 89.9 1152 1216 1472 1680 864 868 876 892 -HSync -VSync
# 1152x864 @ 70 Hz, 62.4 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864" 92 1152 1208 1368 1474 864 865 875 895
# 1152x864 @ 78 Hz, 70.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864" 110 1152 1240 1324 1552 864 864 876 908
# 1152x864 @ 84 Hz, 76.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "1152x864" 135 1152 1464 1592 1776 864 864 876 908

# 1280x960 @ 60 HzModeline "1280x960" 108 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961 964 1000 +HSync +VSync
# 1280x960 @ 85 HzModeline "1280x960" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +HSync +VSync

# 1280x1024 @ 100 Hz, 107.16 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024" 181.75 1280 1312 1440 1696 1024 1031 1046 1072 -HSync -VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 61 Hz, 64.2 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024" 110 1280 1328 1512 1712 1024 1025 1028 1054
# 1280x1024 @ 70 Hz, 74.59 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024" 126.5 1280 1312 1472 1696 1024 1032 1040 1068 -HSync -VSync
# 1280x1024 @ 74 Hz, 78.85 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1456 1712 1024 1027 1030 1064
# 1280x1024 @ 76 Hz, 81.13 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024" 135 1280 1312 1416 1664 1024 1027 1030 1064
# 1280x1024 @ 85 Hz, 91.15 kHz hsync
Modeline "1280x1024" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +HSync +VSync

# 1600x1200 @ 60Hz, 75.00 kHz hsync
Modeline "1600x1200" 162 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 70 Hz, 87.50 kHz hsync
Modeline "1600x1200" 189 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 -HSync -VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 75 Hz, 93.75 kHz hsync
Modeline "1600x1200" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +HSync +VSync
# 1600x1200 @ 85 Hz, 105.77 kHz hsync
Modeline "1600x1200" 220 1600 1616 1808 2080 1200 1204 1207 1244 +HSync +VSync

# 1800x1440 @ 64Hz, 96.15 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1800X1440" 230 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
# 1800x1440 @ 70Hz, 104.52 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1800X1440" 250 1800 1896 2088 2392 1440 1441 1444 1490 +HSync +VSync
# Low-res Doublescan modes
# If your chipset does not support doublescan, you get a 'squashed'
# resolution like 320x400.

# 320x200 @ 70 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
Modeline "320x200" 12.588 320 336 384 400 200 204 205 225 Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 60 Hz, 31.5 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
Modeline "320x240" 12.588 320 336 384 400 240 245 246 262 Doublescan
# 320x240 @ 72 Hz, 36.5 kHz hsync
Modeline "320x240" 15.750 320 336 384 400 240 244 246 262 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 4:3 aspect ratio
ModeLine "400x300" 18 400 416 448 512 300 301 302 312 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "400x300" 20 400 416 480 528 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 400x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "400x300" 25 400 424 488 520 300 319 322 333 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 56 Hz, 35.2 kHz hsync, 8:5 aspect ratio
ModeLine "480x300" 21.656 480 496 536 616 300 301 302 312 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 60 Hz, 37.8 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300" 23.890 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 63 Hz, 39.6 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300" 25 480 496 576 632 300 301 303 314 Doublescan
# 480x300 @ 72 Hz, 48.0 kHz hsync
Modeline "480x300" 29.952 480 504 584 624 300 319 322 333 Doublescan

EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of graphics device sections may be present

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic VGA"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
Chipset "generic"

# VideoRam 256

# Clocks 25.2 28.3

EndSection

# Device configured by Xconfigurator:

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI|3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
#VideoRam 8192
# Insert Clocks lines here if appropriate
EndSection
# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************

# The Colour SVGA server

Section "Screen"
Driver "svga"
Device "Generic VGA"
#Device "ATI|3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
#Modes (null)
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

# The 16-color VGA server

Section "Screen"
Driver "vga16"
Device "Generic VGA"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Modes "640x480" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

# The Mono server

Section "Screen"
Driver "vga2"
Device "Generic VGA"
Monitor "My Monitor"
Subsection "Display"
Modes "640x480" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection

# The accelerated servers (S3, Mach32, Mach8, 8514, P9000, AGX, W32, Mach64
# I128, and S3V)
Section "Screen"
Driver "accel"
Device "ATI|3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X"
Monitor "My Monitor"
DefaultColorDepth 32
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
</config>

well sorry for the huge message, but it seemed the best way for me to answer questions that i dont really know the answer to . anyways, for those of us with short memories, the problem was basicly that my monitor sucks so im stuck in 640X480, and linux does not seem to like/understand that. tks in advance for any help
 
Old 01-27-2002, 11:54 PM   #9
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you may not using the server you think,

which means your problem might be the 800x600 modes

the largest mode becomes the virtual size by default, unless you specify a virtual size.

if you cannot get 800x600 then you should remove it.
 
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well now that my cable company got my internet back up <grr>, im back I edited my XF86Config file and removed all of the 800X600 references in the screen section, and the problem remains exactly as it was... im really quite confused here as to why it would be doing this, but hey a challenge is good for the mind right?
 
Old 01-29-2002, 07:37 PM   #11
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..............X...

Well if you did not backup the file already you might want to.

try removing some modelines
 
  


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