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Old 04-28-2005, 11:09 PM   #1
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screen saver and nvidia driver problems


Now that I have my boot system done I have a problem with two things with my Fedora Core 64 bit.

My first problem is the screen saver.

I first get this warning

The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running
on display ":0.0". Launch it now?

I will hit OK

Then I get this.

Error:
The xscreensaver daemon did not start up properly.
You are running as root. This usually means that xscreensaver
was unable to contact your X server because access control is
urned on. Try running this command:

xhost +localhost
and then selecting `File / Restart Daemon'.
Note that turning off access control will allow anyone logged
on to this machine to access your screen, which might be
considered a security problem. Please read the xscreensaver
manual and FAQ for more information.

You shouldn't run X as root. Instead, you should log in as a
normal user, and `su' as necessary.


I do not know if the is the problem or not but I always log in under root. I just did not feel like setting up a user acount since I am the only one that used this PC and no one on my house has a clue what fedora is.

The other thing that might be the problem is that I do not have the Nforce drivers install for my Mobo or video card. I downloaded them and I have the run file on my PC but when I double click it I do not see it installing. I have checked my hardware profiles and they do nto show installed. I just do not get what I am doing wrong. I think I am to use to Windows.

Thanks for any help

Last edited by veener88; 04-28-2005 at 11:22 PM.
 
Old 04-28-2005, 11:38 PM   #2
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well pretend you didnt say that about root :P
****make another user account**** type 'adduser' at the command line and follow the simple instructions and make a normal user account. if you want to know why this is so important, search yahoo or google about what the root account is/does and can do, and why it is important to protect it.
always use your new user account, unless you have something to do that requires root/administrator priviledges, ie installing video card drivers. then you can use the 'su' command (type 'man su' to see what this does) and run the command as root, and exit.
so make your new account, reboot and login as this new account. the screensaver should work now, give it a shot.

regarding your video drivers.. what file did you download? did you read the /Readme file that was probably included? double clicking it probably wont do much.. its different from your M$ 'setup.exe'.
read the readme file that came with it, or from the page where you downloaded the file from, and try what it says and post back if its not working

Last edited by nadroj; 04-28-2005 at 11:41 PM.
 
Old 04-29-2005, 12:23 AM   #3
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Take note that the nForce driver is meant for the nForce2 chipseted motherboards, not graphics cards. I have this chipset, and have never had any use for the drivers (dont have them installed). The video drivers themselves are easy to install. Shutdown X (telinit down if X keeps coing back), login as root, and issue: sh /path/to/NVIDIAxxxx.run
Itll guide you thru. BUT before that, read the README available at the site you downloaded the driver from. If you dont read it before installing, you wont get X back up. There are some modifications you must make to your xorg.conf (/xf86*.conf)
 
Old 04-29-2005, 09:07 PM   #4
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Thanks added the user name and that did it for the screen saver. Had to google to find out how to set the password but I am good to go now.

Now to and get the drivers going.

The reason for the Nidia driver is that I have a DFI LANPARTY UT nF3 250Gb Mobo and that is a Nvidia chipset and I have a Geforce 4 MX4000 Video card.
 
Old 04-29-2005, 10:49 PM   #5
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Ok I am starting to get this down. Right now I am trying to figure out X server and how to turn that off. The readme files tell me how to edit it but not turn it off. But at least I am starting to get this.
 
Old 04-30-2005, 12:28 AM   #6
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Code:
init 3
should shut it down and bring you to a console.. or CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE should also shutdown x server.
 
Old 04-30-2005, 12:17 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by nadroj
Code:
init 3
should shut it down and bring you to a console.. or CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE should also shutdown x server.
Ok thanks I getting lost again.

I hit CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE and my screen just goes black. I am just not getting what to do from there. I did try the code "init 3" in the termainal and I just get a error that the comand is not found.

Wow I have never been so lost on an OS before in my life.

Thanks for your help so far. I am just tring to figure out this os now.
 
Old 04-30-2005, 12:38 PM   #8
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just try one of the 2 solutions i posted... if ctrl alt backspace works then use that and continue on whatever you were trying to do without x running. when you press those 3 keys it goes to console because it does what you wanted/asked to do.. shutdown X server.
 
Old 04-30-2005, 01:52 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by nadroj
just try one of the 2 solutions i posted... if ctrl alt backspace works then use that and continue on whatever you were trying to do without x running. when you press those 3 keys it goes to console because it does what you wanted/asked to do.. shutdown X server.
Ok after some searching I found out how to get both comands to work.

After I shitdown X server I just get a black screen. I hit enter and nothing happens. I just am not getting what I am missing. I know it is something simple but I am just missing it in the reading.

What I am doing, is after get the warning to shutdown the X servier when trying to load the driver in the terminal I hit CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE and that brings me to a blank screen.

I hit ENTER and I get a curser that just blinks.

The only way for me exit out of the screen is hit CTRL+ALD+DELETE .

Does anyone know of a good site for getting to know Fedora 64bit a lot better. I am finding out I am way out of my class and I am felling way to much like a out of place

Thanks
 
Old 04-30-2005, 09:49 PM   #10
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a blank screen? cursor flashing? is it completely blank? or something like
Code:
nadroj@linux:
 
Old 04-30-2005, 09:58 PM   #11
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Just cursor flashing after I hit enter. Before I hit enter I do not have anything just a blank screen.
 
Old 05-01-2005, 01:15 AM   #12
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It is just a cursor because he is signed in as root, so he is probably in / or /root. You would have to navigate to where your nforce installer is. /path/to/nvidiainstaller will run the install program. If you don't know, do a "man find" without the quotes at the prompt and learn how to locate files here's a shortcut for this one -
Code:
find / -name *NFORCE* -print
That assumes you are in as root (very bad idea) or do the su command before searching.

You'll probably also have to make the install file executable. I forget if you need to modify the file or not for NForce. You may need to do both the NForce and NVidia for the board and the videocard, not sure about that.

Post back with your problems.

Peace,
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Old 05-01-2005, 09:57 AM   #13
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I am not signed in under the root.

When I type in any comand it does nothing. I just hit enter and it goes to the next line and the curser just blinks.

Unless I hit a key I will not see a curser or anything.
 
Old 05-01-2005, 10:28 AM   #14
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edit your /etc/inittab file (with the GUI). theres a line in it something like id::5::runlevel or something like that, i dont remember.. change the 5 to a 3, save, and reboot.this will boot the computer to the console without X. do what you need to do, then use vi to edit the file again back to a 5 if you want. you can type 'startx' in the console to start up your gui
 
Old 05-01-2005, 11:45 AM   #15
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Originally posted by nadroj
edit your /etc/inittab file (with the GUI). theres a line in it something like id::5::runlevel or something like that, i dont remember.. change the 5 to a 3, save, and reboot.this will boot the computer to the console without X. do what you need to do, then use vi to edit the file again back to a 5 if you want. you can type 'startx' in the console to start up your gui
Ok that worked to get me to a working terminal. Problem is that it did not install. I have to get the log. What gets to me though is that now I can not use my web browser. I had to make a new user account for it to work. I do not know what is causing this now. I hit the web browser button and it shows that it is trying to open it and then it just dissapears.

Thanks for your help so far. Now that I have been playing with this some I am finding out some my cisco classes are helping out a little.

These are my Nvidia logs

vidia-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-installer.log'
creation time: Sun May 1 10:10:45 2005

option status:
license pre-accepted : false
update : false
force update : false
expert : false
uninstall : false
driver info : false
no precompiled interface: false
no ncurses color : false
query latest driver ver : false
OpenGL header files : false
no questions : false
silent : false
no backup : false
kernel module only : false
sanity : false
add this kernel : false
no runlevel check : false
no network : false
no ABI note : false
no RPMs : false
force tls : (not specified)
force compat32 tls : (not specified)
X install prefix : /usr/X11R6
OpenGL install prefix : /usr
compat32 install prefix : (not specified)
installer install prefix: /usr
utility install prefix : /usr
kernel name : (not specified)
kernel include path : (not specified)
kernel source path : (not specified)
kernel output path : (not specified)
kernel install path : (not specified)
proc mount point : /proc
ui : (not specified)
tmpdir : /tmp
ftp mirror : ftp://download.nvidia.com
RPM file list : (not specified)

Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface
-> License accepted.
-> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; would you li
ke the installer to attempt to download a kernel interface for your kernel f
rom the NVIDIA ftp site (ftp://download.nvidia.com)? (Answer: Yes)
-> No matching precompiled kernel interface was found on the NVIDIA ftp site;
this means that the installer will need to compile a kernel interface for
your kernel.
ERROR: Unable to find the development tool `cc` in your path; please make sure
that you have the package 'gcc' installed. If gcc is installed on your
system, then please check that `cc` is in your PATH.
ERROR: Installation has failed. Please see the file
'/var/log/nvidia-installer.log' for details. You may find suggestions
on fixing installation problems in the README available on the Linux
driver download page at www.nvidia.com.

nforce-installer log file '/var/log/nvidia-nforce-installer.log'
creation time: Fri Apr 29 20:34:31 2005

option status:
license pre-accepted : false
expert : false
uninstall : false
driver info : false
no precompiled interface : false
no ncurses color : false
no questions : false
silent : false
Installer install prefix : /usr
kernel source path : (not specified)
net kernel install path : (not specified)
audio kernel install path : (not specified)
proc mount point : /proc
ui : (not specified)
tmpdir : /tmp

Using: nvidia-installer ncurses user interface
-> Found package NVIDIA network driver for Linux-x86_64
-> Found package NVIDIA audio driver for Linux-x86_64
-> Please select packages for installation:
Selections:
NVIDIA network driver for Linux-x86_64 (1.0-11)
NVIDIA audio driver for Linux-x86_64 (1.0-2)
-> Starting install of NVIDIA network driver for Linux-x86_64
-> Checking for loaded module nvnet
-> Checking for loaded module forcedeth
-> Trying to remove loaded module forcedeth
-> License accepted.
-> Skipping check for conflicting rpms.
-> /proc/version is Linux version 2.6.9-1.667
(bhcompile@dolly.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat
3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:50:10 EST 2004
-> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means
that the installer will need to compile a new kernel interface.
-> Kernel source path: '/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667/source'
-> Kernel output path: '/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667/build'
ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system.
Please install your distribution's libc development package.
ERROR: Installation of the network driver has failed. Please see the file
'/var/log/nvidia-nforce-installer.log' for details. You may find
suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on
the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.


-> Starting install of NVIDIA audio driver for Linux-x86_64
-> Checking for loaded module nvsound
-> Checking for loaded module nvaudio
-> License accepted.
-> Skipping check for conflicting rpms.
-> /proc/version is Linux version 2.6.9-1.667
(bhcompile@dolly.build.redhat.com) (gcc version 3.4.2 20041017 (Red Hat
3.4.2-6.fc3)) #1 Tue Nov 2 14:50:10 EST 2004
-> No precompiled kernel interface was found to match your kernel; this means
that the installer will need to compile a new kernel interface.
-> Using the kernel source path '/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667/source' as specified
by the '--kernel-source-path' commandline option.
-> Kernel source path: '/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667/source'
-> Using the kernel output path '/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667/build' as specified
by the '--kernel-output-path' commandline option.
-> Kernel output path: '/lib/modules/2.6.9-1.667/build'
ERROR: You do not appear to have libc header files installed on your system.
Please install your distribution's libc development package.
ERROR: Installation of the audio driver has failed. Please see the file
'/var/log/nvidia-nforce-installer.log' for details. You may find
suggestions on fixing installation problems in the README available on
the Linux driver download page at www.nvidia.com.
 
  


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