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Old 11-24-2002, 03:15 AM   #1
velodev
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RPM Packages? Where did it go?


Faily new to Linux 8.0 and I am having some luck with most my issues however I can't figure this one out...

I browse the menu to click on System Settings > Packages and it begins to load up the main window and the dialog window. The dialog window has a progress bar and begins reading installed packages and etc. When it completes... Packages disappears.

I want to install Opera, etc however installing apps goes the same way. I click on the RPM and blam... gone.

Any ideas?
 
Old 11-24-2002, 09:52 AM   #2
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I still a newbie myself so...

When the Package window disapear, it normally mean that the packet is installed successfully, try running it (for opera simply enter 'opera' in run commands) that should work. I could be completely off tho, so if i am dont mind me.

have fun! later
 
Old 11-24-2002, 12:44 PM   #3
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That wasn't it. But I do appreciate the help.

Now I just noticed when I click on Mozilla it loads up and is about to display my home page and then *gone*.

I don't think I am doing anything wrong.
 
Old 11-24-2002, 03:16 PM   #4
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Hi folks !

To handle packages as a pro you'll have to get Synaptics software.
Save the RPM in a folder /home/your_access/data/to_install/synaptics/install
Then install it via the console :
cd /home/your_access/data/to_install/synaptics/install
rpm -Uvh synaptics_file_name.RPM

After that you'll have synaptics nicely installed which is a wonderful gateway to available RPMS in the Linux world, and which will install what you select automatically for you, delete the wrong or unneeded files, etc etc etc

Have fun & GL M8 !
 
Old 11-24-2002, 03:50 PM   #5
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Synaptics rings a bell... isn't that TouchPad software for laptops, etc.?

Can you post a link to this 3rd party RPM manager?
 
Old 11-24-2002, 06:36 PM   #6
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Ooops, sorry I put a "s" at the end.
The accurate name is Synaptic (without "S" obviously then)

You'll find that UNAVOIDABLE tool on :
http://distro.conectiva.com.br/projetos/46

Give it a try !

GL M8 !
 
Old 11-24-2002, 07:54 PM   #7
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Come on GUYS!!! I am newbie too but I use command line software (except for somemanagment things like drakconf)... I know that the GUI is better looking and more user-friendly... but it absolutley misses the point of Unix... of Open Source software!!!
Ok. try this...
rpm -qa |grep <name of package> for a query of all the packages that starts with <name of package> or
rpm -qa |more for a full list of all packages installed.
rpm -ivh <full path of package> for installing packages (note you have to write the full path like /mnt/cdrom/RedHat/RPMS/iptables-1.2.1-1.rpm
rpm -uvh <name of package> for uninstalling <name of package> package.

about third party software... I think that it shoul be used ONLY when the distro's own software can't fulfill your needs.

About the mozzila problem... It happends to me also... but with programs that uses more resources... (I have a PIII 800MHz with 128MB and 10GB HDD) perhaps yours is a little bit older and it can't handle it... that problem has been on my computer ever since I installed mandrake 9.0 But i know that on other distros it happends also.

You can't say linux 8.0 you could say redhat8.0 or mandrake9.0 but linux is a word that works for every distro aviable on the market. Linux is the type of kernel it uses... not a brand like Micro$oft.

Try running drakconf (you will need root access) there is a software administration section if you want to use a GUI.
 
Old 11-24-2002, 07:56 PM   #8
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Interesting! I went to the site, I take it 0.8 is the latest version? What exactly are the advantages to using Synaptic to GNOrpm or up2date?
 
Old 11-24-2002, 08:08 PM   #9
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absolutley none!

Listen to me... I've been using windows all my life... I finally got rid of it and could start usin a linux.like system... If you are looking for a reliable Graphic Interface.... then spend a few dollars on a windows 2000 pro or a windows XP home... but don't use linux JUST because it's free. If you want to save money use openoffice.org... but the OS is basic. Linux is a text-mode based OS.... so don't try to make it a GUI based system...

or try tru6gunix... that's a unix based OS that only runs in graphical mode.... so it has a very strong graphical engine....

Hey... excuse all my stupid says but I have low pressure... so i probably go to sleep now...

seeyah

Save the penguin
 
Old 11-24-2002, 08:19 PM   #10
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Night dude

I have a slightly different idea on those things...

I think if you wanna use a gui, and works well (like this synpatics things does the apt-get type thing) then it's fine to use. But if you have problems with it, then you always have the *option* of going back and using the command line. That's the nice thing, the option is always there, and it works very well.

Cool
 
Old 11-25-2002, 03:36 PM   #11
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hey dude... are you following me.. heheh...

I think that it is faster... and faster is better (not always but it applies now) Though there are certain things that are a LOT easyer with a GUI... i understand that (such as configuring network with netconf instead of insmod and ifconfig) but it is just a line you have to type the RPM.... and I've never had any problem with that... however the graphical interface gave me many problems installing some components... that's why i learned to do it manually (in the command line)

Save the pengui
 
Old 11-25-2002, 10:01 PM   #12
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I really hate to be rude because I know I am new here and to linux but can someone just answer my questions? We are totally off topic.

I am using Linux GUI because I need to use items like GIMP and Mozilla/Opera. Well, I can't even install Opera.

If I double click on the rpm for Opera, the progress bar appears and continues till it reaches what would be 100%. Then the RPM manager window just disappears. It is not on any desktop or taskbar.

If I go to System settings just to review my packages and click on the Packages item. It runs just the same, and then gone.

How do I solve this? Do I have to reinstall Redhat 8.0 (obviously you can now tell I am Windows user since reinstalling is usually an option).

So please, less opinion and more troubleshooting. This OS is beginning to frustrate me with bugs.
 
Old 11-26-2002, 12:12 AM   #13
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I would start by checking that the package was installed
rpm -qa | grep opera
if it's there, I would run the find command and locate where the opera command was installed. It's probably in /usr/bin/. Try typing "opera" at the command prompt. I've never installed opera, so I can't say if it will create the icon for you. You can always create one if it doesn't.
 
Old 11-26-2002, 09:40 AM   #14
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If it doesn't work with the GUI use the textmode!!!!


rpm -ivh <full path of package>
 
Old 01-13-2003, 06:38 PM   #15
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RPM Packages? Where did it go?

I found LinuxQuestions and this thread on a Google search, because I'm experiencing exactly the same behavior.

I have RH 8.0 installed on a desktop (Athelon 1200) and a laptop (Pentium 366MMX). RH Package Manager worked for a short while on the desktop and then disappeared with the same symptoms already described. Since, I was still making a lot of changes, I figured that it was caused by something I had done. However, on the laptop it continued to work fine for several weeks, until it happened to the laptop also. This time no major changes had been made.

I am still trying to make sense of the command line rpm output and find all the dependencies. Since Package Manager (gui) worked in the beginning, how can anything be MISSING unless something deleted it or screwed up the pointers.

As for using command line, I started with CP/M and went through all the versions of DOS. Linux command line is a memorizing process that I will eventually master, but GUI is nice also. Comments such as those above about Linux command line forever are beginning to show their age. It reminds me of what my father told me about when cars were becoming common. When one would break down, people riding by in their buggies would shout, "Get a Horse!" Horses are still useful and often preferable, but then cars are nice also. )

So, as velodev asks, does anyone have an idea why this should work okay and then start the disappearing act?
 
  


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