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Old 08-29-2011, 02:06 PM   #1
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This my be solved else where BUT: i TYPE 9 WORDS A minute if I practice for 3 months. So short of partitioning my hard drives how do I logon to my system in gui as root? What flavor of linux will allow me to do this? So I can edit what I desire to?
 
Old 08-29-2011, 02:12 PM   #2
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i TYPE 9 WORDS A minute if I practice for 3 months. So short of partitioning my hard drives how do I logon to my system in gui as root?
Why do you think you would write faster as root? And how do you think we should answer that question if we even don't know which distribution with which display manager you are using?

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What flavor of linux will allow me to do this?
Puppy Linux.
Slackware.
All others I know of have to be tweaked to do that or doesn't work correctly if run as root in GUI.

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So I can edit what I desire to?
You can edit everything you want as root without running the GUI as root, either via su, sudo or one of their graphical counterparts, like sux, kdesu and gksu.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 02:51 PM   #3
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Why do you think you would write faster as root?
The obvious intent was type less, not type faster!

Why do you make fun of a reasonable request just because it is something that doesn't matter to you.

Several versions of Mepis ago, one of the things I liked best about Mepis compared to typical Linux distros was how much system management (including root login) I could do in the GUI without significant typing.

I'm less sure of the current Mepis status. I haven't recently tried to install a current Mepis and some of the automatic (originating in Debian) updates to my older Mepis needed complicated action to avoid loosing the root GUI login.

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Puppy Linux.
Slackware.
So start by needing a lot more typing in order to enable something that saves some typing !?
Aggressive miss the point there.

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You can edit everything you want as root without running the GUI as root, either via su, sudo or one of their graphical counterparts, like sux, kdesu and gksu.
Moderate to significant extra typing to avoid some extra typing. Again missing the point.

I think the OP would want what Mepis used to be. I don't know what if anything is that now.

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Old 08-29-2011, 03:21 PM   #4
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Why do you think I want to make fun of the OP? As you stated, I didn't see the point in that statements. If that was offensive I apologize for that.

If what the OP wants is more GUI administrating he should try Mepis (as you pointed out already), Linux Mint, PCLinuxOS or Ubuntu, as far as I know they come with many GUI administrating tools, and if you set up the keyring in the right way (with the same password as the user's password, at least on Ubuntu or Mint) you shouldn't need any extra authentication to start that tools.
 
Old 08-29-2011, 06:31 PM   #5
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Sorry if any part of the misunderstanding is on my part, but...

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Why do you think I want to make fun of the OP?
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Why do you think you would write faster as root?
I didn't (and still don't) consider the possibility that you actually think that grizlbr thinks that he would write faster as root.

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If what the OP wants is more GUI administrating he should try Mepis (as you pointed out already), Linux Mint, PCLinuxOS or Ubuntu, as far as I know they come with many GUI administrating tools, and if you set up the keyring in the right way (with the same password as the user's password, at least on Ubuntu or Mint) you shouldn't need any extra authentication to start that tools.
I never got that keyring thing to work for me. I tried it as you describe in Mepis and Ubuntu.

From my point of view, GUI admin is not just the extra tools Mepis etc. gives you to do tasks that in some other distro might be command line. A big part of Linux admin is editing text files. So the big part of GUI admin that I think grizlbr was asking for is editing those files with the same mouse oriented GUI text editor one uses for ordinary text files, after getting to those files with the same mouse oriented GUI file browser one uses for ordinary file browsing.

I happen to use konqueror and kwrite. I don't know what grizlbr wants to use. I know that with a little (at least in Mepis) extra effort, I can run a copy of konqueror in su mode and the kwrite in su mode, even though my GUI is not logged in as root. Together with that keyring thing (if I could get it to work), that would get close to the convenience of a GUI running root. But only close.

In Linux, I don't browse the web, read email, or run untrusted executables while logged in as root. I think that is enough safety (I wish there were a practical way to make Windows that safe). You're free to disagree. If all the things I do in older Mepis were still this easy in current Mepis, I would have already told grizlbr that Mepis is his answer.
 
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I think that some configuration is necessary, and that includes some typing to do that, to achieve that behavior of the GUI. In Thunar, for example, you can expand your GUI with custom commands like "Edit as root", "Start as root" or "Browse as root" using Thunar's custom actions. I don't know if this is possible with Nautilus, Konqueror or Dolphin, but if the OP is willing to give that a try he can cut and paste the necessary scripts from the link I gave to minimize the involved typing. And to use Thunar in that way he doesn't have to change distro, if his distro has Thunar in its repositories (which is most likely, but still depends on the distro).
 
  


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