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Old 04-24-2003, 08:32 AM   #1
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ripping CDs to mp3s in Konqueror?


Hi, I tried ripping an audio CD by typing audiocd:/ in the Konqueror location bar as described in this thread and it worked pretty much as described. However, there were directories with .wavs and .oggs but no .mp3s.

Does anyone know if Konqueror has to be configured somehow to rip to mp3? Where do I specify the ripping rate (i.e. 128 kBps, 160 kBps, 192 kBps, etc.) I want to use?

Question Part 2: I decided to go with ogg to experiment and copied the virtual ogg directory to my home directory and let Konqueror rip away. I came back about 15 minutes later and Konqueror was still going and projected it had about 40 minutes remaining. Does this sound about right for one CD? Is that because I'm using Konqueror instead of grip or because I'm ripping to ogg instead of mp3, or a little of both?

For clarification, I was running a Slackware 9 "everything" distribution and Gnome desktop and can play mp3s in XMMS.

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Old 04-24-2003, 08:35 AM   #2
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Why don't you install lame and grip? That combo works great for me in slack 9.
 
Old 04-24-2003, 08:38 AM   #3
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I could do that. But that's not my question .

But since you're suggesting grip, how long does it take to rip a CD at around 128 kBps?
 
Old 04-24-2003, 09:07 AM   #4
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Depends on processor, HD, etc. On my box, it rips and encodes a 15 song cd in about 5 mins
 
Old 04-24-2003, 09:13 AM   #5
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be aware that both these methods are very likely using exactly the same gubbins in the background. cdparanoia to rip the disc and lame, bladeenc, oggenc etc.. to make the mp3 / ogg. there shouldn't be any speed differences possible save for how each program is called, e.g cdparanoia runs really slow when full scratch detection is enabled, but really fast when it's all removed. these kinds of settings should be available to konq (nasty nasty browser that it is...) and they are certainly all there on grip.
 
Old 04-24-2003, 09:54 AM   #6
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On my box, it rips and encodes a 15 song cd in about 5 mins
Well, that's more along the lines of what I'd expect. I have a P4 1.5GHz machine, so that shouldn't be the limiting factor.

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be aware that both these methods are very likely using exactly the same gubbins in the background...
I suspected as much, but wasn't certain.

So, the question remains, does anyone know where to tweak these settings in Konqueror, and why a virtual mp3 directory was not created?

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Old 04-24-2003, 10:20 AM   #7
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I tried to use konqueror to rip cds and it took way to long as well. Using grip, it takes about 10 minutes to rip a full cd to ogg.
 
Old 04-24-2003, 10:32 AM   #8
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busbarn, did Konqueror give you a virtual folder of mp3s, or only wav and ogg?

If we could find the settings in Konqueror, maybe we'd discover that it was doing, say, a full scratch detection by default and would speed up if we turned that option off.
 
Old 04-24-2003, 03:03 PM   #9
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I see you use redhat 8, so this may be because they didn't ship with any mp3 encoding software. I suspect you may need to install some mp3 audio libraries to rip as mp3.

Does it work when you boot slackware? Just a thought.

I can tell you with certainty however, that this has nothing to do with Konq, as Konq is just a vessel for the audiocd slave that does the actual work. For more info you can find 'info center' in you're kde menu then browse the 'protocols' section for some simple docs on using audiocd, and how it works.

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Old 04-24-2003, 03:17 PM   #10
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Thanks bulliver. If I'm not mistaken, you're the one who I first saw suggest this tip.

I do have Red Hat 8 installed, but I was in Slackware 9 when I was trying this. I have not installed any of the mp3 plugins, libs, etc. in Red Hat, so I didn't even try this there.

So the solution is to configure audiocd properly, then when Konqueror hands off to audiocd it will create the virtual mp3 directory and will rip at a decent speed when I copy those virtual files somewhere?

Out of curiosity, how long does it take you to rip a CD using this method?
 
Old 04-24-2003, 03:24 PM   #11
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Yes it was me in that first post

I don't know what else to tell you because I can rip to mp3 using Konq on my non-redhat system.

As for how long it takes, about 15-20 minutes on a 950mhz box, your mileage will certainly vary based on processor speed, available RAM, and system load at the time.
 
Old 04-24-2003, 03:27 PM   #12
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15-20 minutes! Wow:
AMD 900
640MB DDR
Toshiba DVD
~8 Minutes
using Grip, Lame@224, cdparanoia without scratch detection



Cool
 
Old 04-24-2003, 04:09 PM   #13
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Another endorsement for grip? Something tells me I should stop wasting time on the academic exercise of trying to figure out how to make the Konqueror thing work, and just install grip and be done with it.

But then what will I have learned?
 
Old 04-24-2003, 05:12 PM   #14
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AFAIK kio_audiocd does not support MP3, why would you want it when Ogg works so much better? I think the only reason is for portable devices.

If you must rip to MP3 for whatever reason, you can use grip as has already been pointed out.

I don't think you can configure what options kio_audiocd uses except perhaps by editing text files somewhere, only a real KDE guru would know. It presents its interface as a VFS plugin, which works OK but you lose some configurability due to the one size fits all UI
 
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I think the only reason is for portable devices.
Bingo! That is the reason.

I'm roaming for grip now.
 
  


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