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Old 01-04-2014, 11:59 PM   #16
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There is no difference between a server distribution and a desktop distribution.

Just what you choose to install.
In general i agree. However in the case of rhel, the version you choose will affect the packages made available by red hat, thus artificially limiting the abilities of the operating system.
 
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In general i agree. However in the case of rhel, the version you choose will affect the packages made available by red hat, thus artificially limiting the abilities of the operating system.
Last time I checked the repositories were the same for both. Only the default set of groups was slightly different.
 
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Last time I checked the repositories were the same for both. Only the default set of groups was slightly different.
I assumed that would not have been the case, so by getting the $50 desktop edition, you could still install and run unlimited kvm virtual machines, apache, mysql etc? That would be interesting. I would have thought that would not have been possible.

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Why? the code to do that is built into the kernel. Either you have VM supported or not.

In the case of apache/mysql... once the package is installed there is no limit to how you use it. The package itself wasn't developed or limited by RH (only packaged) the upstream project creates any limits on how it functions.

As far as I know, there are no limits, other than what your hardware will support.

The only difference is in the level of support you get. As I understand it, the $50 desktop support gets you only minimal RH support (none for VMs, use as storage servers, or cluster). A server support gets you 24 hour on-call...

When I was working we had 4 physical servers - three were CentOS, one was RH. If a problem occured on any of the CentOS servers, we checked for the problem on the RH licensed server. If the problem occurred there, we called it in... for the RH server. Otherwise, we knew it was a configuration/hardware problem on the CentOS based systems. My workstation was actually a CentOS server - with the desktop packages added. The only difference I could find was the default install of a server didn't include the GUI.
 
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Interesting to know. I understand 100% the support. But the way they had things on their site I interpreted it like microsoft where artificial limits are imposed.

According to
http://www.redhat.com/products/enter...p/compare.html

It paints a very different picture to me.

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Old 01-05-2014, 09:23 AM   #21
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The keyword is "support". Not supporting something isn't the same as not having the something.

One thing RH learned (that Microsoft has not) was that having the stuff out there, even if not supported, allows people to experiment with it, and thus build up a market for support. It also allows non-RH users/testers to spread the news, and contribute fixes/improvements back. And that generates more markets for support.

Microsoft has started trying things... but with a limited license (lacking features, artificially limiting capabilities) which doesn't allow much in the way of experimenting - very small things only. And the users can't really contribute anything back. Purchasing a license for the entire package can be very expensive - $10K and up. Not very conducive to experiments.
 
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Yes, i know all about those costs, but one of the main issues we face is we don't care much for support. We use rhel derivates and are more interested in faster updates. But our reasoning behind not getting the rhel desktop was wording and the fact that they say it supports 8gb ram. We have more than 8gb in the system. So 8gb max was perceived and as such the software limits were deduced.

Oh well. We will wait for rhel 7 see what they offer. They do offer good services I believe and have a very successful business model, but are very cheeky in terms of making the source code available. That is the only thing about RHEL I never really liked. All other distros provide the binaries as well since they are already compiled, but, that is another issue for another day.

Back to the OP. Sorry for veering off topic slightly

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