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Old 05-31-2003, 07:16 PM   #1
ugzkmk
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RH9 + X + Help!


Ok well im new to the Linux world and am starting with Redhat 9.0. I bought the box set for the support....which sucks so im looking for help else where..here!

I cant get any graphics but a blue box saying yes or no.
ive tried many things to no avail. i have an ATI Radeon 7000 and Cybervision Monitor. I have no clue whats goin on and only want the thing to work, so come on experts Help Me Please!

Here are my Config settings

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName ""
HorizSync 31.5 - 37.9
VertRefresh 50.0 - 70.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "radeon"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "ATI Radeon 7000"
Ram "65536"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
Modes "800x600" "640x480"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection


Thanks!
 
Old 05-31-2003, 07:28 PM   #2
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I believe you have to download a driver for that video card.

# Configuring X
Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO - video cards
The Linux XFree86 HOWTO
Common X configuring tools:
Debian - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
Mandrake - XFdrake
Redhat 7.3 down - the setup utility leads to several config tools
Redhat 7.3 up - redhat-config-xfree86
You may have these tools:
XF86Setup
XFree86 -configure
Xconfigurator
xf86cfg
xf86config
xconf

# Redhat links
RedHat Linux Manuals
Maximum RPM
rpmfind
Easier software management: apt4rpm - Red Carpet
RedHat 8.0 Tips & Tricks

# Redhat 7.3 down configuration commands
setup leads to several configuration tools

# Redhat 7.3 up configuration commands
Configure soundcard:
redhat-config-soundcard
Configure X server:
redhat-config-xfree86
Configure network:
redhat-config-network

# Redhat 9.0
Redhat 9.0 Upgrading the kernel
Building a custom kernel
 
Old 05-31-2003, 08:50 PM   #3
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well according to those links i have the correct "radeon" driver, thanks though


still help....please...
 
Old 05-31-2003, 11:04 PM   #4
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Just for comparison I am posting a similar portion of my XF86Config file. I also use Red Hat 9 so it might be useful to compare the files. It does not appear that the installation program identified what monitor you have. I assume you had to make a generic choice or use custom settings? Even so, with the correct settings it should work. I see you are using the a radeon driver and I have no idea if that is the best choice or not? I am not an expert at editing this file and have only rarely done so. The Xconfiurator program was removed from RH 8 and probably is probably not in RH9. I believe a somwhat similar program can by run by typing the command below while logged in as root. It will create a file called XF86Config.new and place it in the /root directory. Notice that I said in roots directory which is called /root not in the actual root directory which is called /.I do not know why it puts it there. There is both a file called XF86Config and a program by that name. That sometimes confuses me! You may want to try typing this:

XFree86 -configure

Look at the newly created file in /root and if it looks ok try firing it up by typing the line below. I am not very familiar with doing any of that so it may or may not work. If it does not work look it up the details of how to do it in some book. Try typing this:

XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new

You can get information from the manual about editing the XF86config file manually by typing this:

man XF86config

Below is a portion of my XF86config file:

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "PHILIPS 109B"
DisplaySize 360 270
HorizSync 30.0 - 97.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 160.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "Videocard0"
Driver "nv"
VendorName "Videocard vendor"
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce 2 MX (generic)"
VideoRam 65536
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Videocard0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group 0
Mode 0666
EndSection
 
Old 05-31-2003, 11:10 PM   #5
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Please carfully note were the spaces are between the command line parameters I gave. When posted on the web page the spaces are not very obvious. One of the commands has two segments to it and the other has three segments. Keep in mind that I am not very sure about any of that. Perhaps someone that knows more would have something to say.
 
Old 05-31-2003, 11:31 PM   #6
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well me being a newb i dont think i could handle that but i have been using VI to edit my config file and i believe i am slowly making progress, no x server though.
as for the monitor im using "unprobed" now

well me being the qwick learner that i am was going through my log files and noticed something very strange.......my only valid res modes are 320x200-0x0. every other mode has an Hsync error or something to do with being interlaced

hopefully this late breaking news will help you help me
 
Old 05-31-2003, 11:33 PM   #7
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Again, I suggest you need the driver.

Get your ATI Linux drivers here while they are hot.

# Configuring X
Linux Hardware Compatibility HOWTO - video cards
The Linux XFree86 HOWTO
Common X configuring tools:
Debian - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86
Mandrake - XFdrake
Redhat 7.3 down - the setup utility leads to several config tools
Redhat 7.3 up - redhat-config-xfree86
You may have these tools:
XF86Setup
XFree86 -configure
Xconfigurator
xf86cfg
xf86config
xconf
ATI Linux drivers
 
Old 05-31-2003, 11:41 PM   #8
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how would i load that driver if i have no graphics interface?
and what driver do i use they dont have one for Radeon 7000?
do i use the next up or does it matter?
 
Old 06-01-2003, 12:11 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by ugzkmk
how would i load that driver if i have no graphics interface?
and what driver do i use they dont have one for Radeon 7000?
do i use the next up or does it matter?
Use the command line, of course. All a GUI is is a front end to the real tools.

You did say Radeon 7000, didn't you? I see it, can't you?

# System administration
The best ways I have found to administer my computer is with basic bash commands in a virtual terminal or an xterminal, or with another powerful shell, the well kept secret of mc (Midnight Commander), with a file manager, editor, and lots more handy tools.

If you use the gui log in, you will be on virtual terminal 1 (most installs default to 6 of these terminals) and your x session will be running in virtual terminal 7.

You have mouse support in the command line with gpm unless it has been disabled, so copy and paste is just as easy in virtual terminals as it is in x.

From a virtual terminal, you can switch from one terminal to another by holding down the alt key and pressing one of the function keys F1 - F6. If you are in x, hold down the control key as well as the alt and F<N> key and you will go that terminal. The terminal that was first used to login will be busy and if x was run from that terminal, the error messages generated by x will be shown. The others will display the login prompt until it is used to log in to an account. To return to x from a virtual terminal, press alt and F7 and you are back to your x session.

Remember, whatever you command in root (it's the "god" mode. You can bless or destroy at your whim) usually gets done if enough system is left to carry out the command.

Type
Code:
mc
and press return and the Midnight Commander shell should run. Type control-o and you are in bash. Type control-o and you are in mc.
Code:
man mc
info mc
will give lots of info. You can use Midnight Commander in either user or root accounts.

You can do the normal linux copy/paste with the mouse from one virtual terminal to another by left clicking and swiping text in one, alt-FN to switch to the virtual terminal you wish to paste into, and middle click will paste the text that was swiped in the first virtual terminal into the file at the blinking cursor position.

To surf the internet from the command line, I recommend installing links as it displays most pages reasonably. You can connect to the internet with the command [b]/sbin/ifup ppp0 & .Also, you can use it to post your questions about Linux here using it. Remember to refresh the posting page after login, however.

There should be no fear of the command line as it is actually easier to use than the gui. All that is necessary is to know the commands.

Last edited by fancypiper; 06-01-2003 at 12:14 AM.
 
Old 06-01-2003, 12:25 AM   #10
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I browsed further, and I'm not real sure about you needing a driver. perhaps some of the links they provide will help.

It goes here

You should be able to find your monitor specs with a google search and hand configure your file with the exact numbers you need.

I'm sure you ought to get a good resolution from it.

Did you try any other X config tools?. I can usually get something that works with xf86cfg.

redhat-config-xfree86
XF86Setup
XFree86 -configure
Xconfigurator
xf86cfg
xf86config
xconf
 
Old 06-04-2003, 07:19 PM   #11
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I had the same problem during installation two weeks ago:
RH 9 - Saphire Radeon 9700 Pro

I had to unplug the second cable going to my tv. The blue box was asking if I want to view the error. It then prompted me to log in as root.

Are you running multiple displays?
 
Old 12-17-2003, 07:28 AM   #12
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Hello,
I just installed red hat 9 (first linux experince) and can only run it on a 640x480 resolutition, which is annoying to say the least. Whenever I change it and reboot i just get a blank screen when the computer trys to load the red hat GUI. Also when I was begining the installation my monitor would bring a screen up that said "Out of frequency. HF 23.9kHz, VF 38.0 Hz Opperating frequency: HF 30-71kHz, VF 50-160Hz" at which point the monitor would power down and I would have to reboot. I have a S3 ProSavageDDR video card and NEC FE700+ Monitor. Im on dual boot with ME.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.
Carl...
 
  


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