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Old 11-05-2003, 02:34 PM   #1
kyte
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RH9: Failed installs of GAIM and Firebird


I called them failed installs because during the install, RH is merrily checking dependencies, then the install simply appears to stop without explanation or error. On the off-chance that something was happening behind the scenes that RH didn't want a mere newbie to see, I left things alone and wandered off to watch TV. Alas, wasted time.

Normally, if RH can't find a lib (and I'll have a q about that it a minute) it simply tells you, and the install goes no further. I havent ever experienced this dependency check, then close the window and do nothing (including NOT installing the file). It seems odd. Additionally its annoying to heck.

Re missing libs: where do you go to get these things. eg: trying to install an earlier version of GAIM (at least its not refusing to work) and I have a missing lib, its a gtk one...should I go get the latest gtk? or can I just get individual libs as required? Also when its other stuff...where do you get that kind of thing? Or do you have to update megs and megs of libs just to get the one or two you really need?

[edit] Before anyone makes remarks about how its not a hassle to get all those updates... I am stuck on 28.8 dialup through no choice of my own, so huge downloads really really have to be worth it for me to bother, since it can take days.

Last edited by kyte; 11-05-2003 at 02:36 PM.
 
Old 11-06-2003, 11:07 PM   #2
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Well, firebird on 28.8 is certainly an investment, not sure I can tell you it's worth it unless I knew how long it took to D/L since Mozilla is on the cd's, and I *thought* gaim was also, not true? I guess not or you wouldn't be here telling us this, how about aol's own "official" linux version of aim? that's what I use when I'm forced to chat with someone *shudder*, I'm not sure it's a smaller download than gaim, but no lib dependency errors were encountered.

as for the whole missing libs thing, you're pretty much doomed to lengthy downloads if your cd sources are defined correctly and the lib isn't found on one of them, everyone always recommends apt-get to solve this problem, but that's going to download large files...no way around it, perhaps an overnite thing will have to be setup, but this assumes no user intervention required and no isp killing the connection, I hear ya...
 
Old 11-07-2003, 08:13 AM   #3
kyte
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I guess I didn't make myself clear.

Its not the download of firebird or GAIM thats at issue. I like them both and I want both to work (and I already have downloaded them). I am also not getting any dependency errors.

The install is simply stopping after the dependency check _without_ any error, complaints about missing libs, or explanation.

I *want* to install fb and GAIM, and if someone can tell me where i am going wrong (or god forbid where the system is going wrong) I would really appreciate it.

Part 2 was a general question about libs: where does one get them when only one is missing (for example), can one download individual libs or must one get the whole package?

Hope thats clearer.
 
Old 11-07-2003, 09:20 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally posted by kyte
I guess I didn't make myself clear.

Its not the download of firebird or GAIM thats at issue. I like them both and I want both to work (and I already have downloaded them). I am also not getting any dependency errors.

The install is simply stopping after the dependency check _without_ any error, complaints about missing libs, or explanation.

I *want* to install fb and GAIM, and if someone can tell me where i am going wrong (or god forbid where the system is going wrong) I would really appreciate it.

Part 2 was a general question about libs: where does one get them when only one is missing (for example), can one download individual libs or must one get the whole package?

Hope thats clearer.
Does Mozilla installed ?? if not install it first ( use add/remove packages ), then install the firebird with :

as root, type :
#rpm -Uvh filename.rpm

Tell me if i'm wrong !!

Last edited by glennardo; 11-07-2003 at 09:21 AM.
 
Old 11-07-2003, 10:38 AM   #5
qwijibow
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firebird is downloaded as a tarball (pre-compiled, and not rpm)

cd to_download_dir
su
password
mv ./MozillaDownloadFile /usr
cd /usr
tar -zxf MozillaDownloadFile
OR tar -xjf if the file is a bz2 compressed file (instead of usual gz)

DONE, its installe, the next steps are optional
su
password
cd /bin
ln -s /usr/MozillaFirebird/MozillaFirebird mozilla

NOW,.e execute mozilla by running
/usr/MozillaFirebird/MozillaFirebird

or, if you did the optional step...
just execute by running
mozilla

first time you run it, from for console, and let me know if u get any errors !

as for rpm's

parameters...
U = upgrade
i = install
v = verbose
h = use 20 # marks are a scroll bar to show progresss.
-q = query installed package
-qa print all included packages

rpm -ivh whatever to install a new package

rpm -Uvh to install version X wheren version Y is already installed and version X is a newer realse that Y.

easy peasy.
 
Old 11-07-2003, 11:02 AM   #6
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well u can get the rpm package of MF at :
http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat...a%20Linux.html

PLEASE READ THIS ALSO !!
=== rpm -U's Dirty Little Secret ===
Well, in the example above, we didn't tell the whole story. There was no older version of the eject package installed. Yes, it's true rpm -U works just fine as a replacement for the normal install command rpm -i.
This is another, more concrete example of the strength of RPM's method of performing upgrades. Since RPM's install command is smart enough to handle upgrades, RPM's upgrade command is really just another way to specify an install. Some people never even bother to use RPM's install command; they always use rpm -U. Maybe the "-U" should stand for, "Uh, do the right thing"
 
Old 11-07-2003, 11:21 PM   #7
kyte
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sounds good, i'll give that a shot, in console. it might at least tell me what's up (yes re firebird being a tarball, not rpm...so, now I know my brainfog is more extensive than even *I* thought... what the heck was the other thing that wouldnt install......hrrrmmmmmmmm...GAIM and...???)

thanks guys
 
Old 11-08-2003, 02:29 AM   #8
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awww !! I thought, we're talking about redhat here, my fault , sorry guys !!
 
Old 11-08-2003, 02:36 AM   #9
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Personally I just untar'd the firebird files to the home directory. Runs fine there no need to move the binary anywhere else.
Makes upgrading easier too as you won't have to be root to do that as they upgrade it often.
 
  


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