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Old 10-19-2002, 05:14 PM   #16
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Thanks for the advice, but I'm still a little too newbieish to know how to do this Where could I find these other window managers? (All that shows up on the login screen are gnome and KDE) Also, how do I boot up in text mode, then start the manager from there?

-JMagi
 
Old 10-19-2002, 05:37 PM   #17
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Ol' AMD K-6 I guess, well, well, well. A good processor but KDE might be an overkill for it, also check the memory - there is a nice tool called memtest86, as you might or might not guess, comes from http://www.memtest86.com

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Old 10-19-2002, 05:43 PM   #18
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And to answer your last question check out http://www.linux-directory.com/links...ndowsManagers/
as for going all the way to CLI (command line interface) search forums here it was addressed more than once.
 
Old 10-19-2002, 05:44 PM   #19
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Ok, let's go with how to start the other wm's first.

If all that shows up at the login screen (known as KDM probably) is Gnome and KDE, then I guess you didn't install the other's during the initial install. No worries. I am sure RH has an easier way to do this, but here's the generic way:

Pop in your install disc(s) and locate RPM's for the various wm's or possibly even an RPM for several of them together. Having not done this recently, I cannot point you towards more specific files, sorry. But the RPM's should at least have the name of the wm you are installing I'd think.

So, click on the RPM and install it, and all it's dependencies, and from there, I would imagine they would automagically get put into your login manager's list.

As for how to boot into text mode:

As root, open up in any text editor the file /etc/inittab

In that file you should find a line that looks something like:
id:5:initdefault:

Change that 5 to a 3, and this will make it so that next time you boot up, it won't go into a GUI for you. Beware, if you don't know any command line usage, you might have a tough time. At the very least, to get into X, know the command 'startx' without the '.
This is the command to start your x server into the default "gui" you have set on your system. So if KDE is your default, this is what startx will boot into. To get to your familiar "login manager" type 'kdm' at the prompt instead.

Cool
 
Old 10-19-2002, 05:45 PM   #20
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And as you can see, Boris is much faster/streamlined than I



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Old 10-19-2002, 06:13 PM   #21
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Thanks for all the info. When I installed RH, I went through the normal install (not custom). All that showed up for window managers were KDE and Gnome, nothing else was available. If I go to that site to get one, how do I install it (I'd be putting it on a disk, since I cannot get on the internet with Linux - another problem)? Would I just put them in with RPM? How do I get to my A: drive (sorry, I'm not into the Linux lingo yet).

-JMagi
 
Old 10-19-2002, 06:14 PM   #22
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Woops, one more question. There are hundreds of them there, could you give me a few you would recommend I try?

Thanks
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Old 10-19-2002, 06:23 PM   #23
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I apologize once again, I need to think before I post. UDE is on the top of the list and sounds like a good one to try, so I went to the download site, but of course their all in different formats (and just pure source). My question is: How do I get it from downloaded on this computer over and installed on the Linux box.

Thanks
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Old 10-19-2002, 06:30 PM   #24
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Are they 2 different boxes all together, or are they different hard drives, or just different partitions?

As for can you put them on a disk, if you mean diskette, not likely, they are probably a little bit bigger than the size of your diskette. If you meant burn em to a CD, yeah, no problem (actually no problem on the floppy either, it's just the size issue there).

As for recommendations:

XFCE
and of course:
Fluxbox

But you should be able to find these on your distro's CDROM. I'd check there first to save yourself from the hassles involved with OS to OS file transfers and other problems that might arise.

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Old 10-19-2002, 07:29 PM   #25
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Two different boxes all together. I heard someone say sawfish, so I was able to download that and get it to /usr/local/sawfishfolder and untar it. I did what it said:

./configure
make all
make install

But now I have no idea what to do and theres files everywhere I did the dumb thing and assumed that I had the things it asked me to make sure I had. So, I'd like to delete it and start over. First of all, how do I delete a folder with things in it as root (I've tried everything). Second of all, how do I install sawfish once I have the tarball in my /usr/local/ folder? Argh

-JMagi
 
Old 10-19-2002, 08:37 PM   #26
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You can test sawfish fairly easily. Just put the line "exec sawfish" in a file ".xinitrc" in your home directory. Then from a text login (no gui) run "startx". You will have to middle-click (3 button) or both-click (2 button) to get a menu where you can find the apps to run. To kill the sawfish session just hit Ctrl-Alt-Backspace.

HTH
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Old 10-19-2002, 08:39 PM   #27
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Woops

Didn't see page 2, disregard my previous post as it is out of sequence.

 
Old 10-19-2002, 08:55 PM   #28
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Quote:
Originally posted by JMagi
Two different boxes all together. I heard someone say sawfish, so I was able to download that and get it to /usr/local/sawfishfolder and untar it. I did what it said:

./configure
make all
make install

But now I have no idea what to do and theres files everywhere I did the dumb thing and assumed that I had the things it asked me to make sure I had. So, I'd like to delete it and start over. First of all, how do I delete a folder with things in it as root (I've tried everything). Second of all, how do I install sawfish once I have the tarball in my /usr/local/ folder? Argh

-JMagi
Ok, 2 different boxes... That's beyond me, read into NIS, SAMBA and NFS I would suppose.

So, you went for sawfish And you went from source!

As the previous poster said, you could make the file .xinitrc in your home directory and execute startx after. This is one way, and probably the easiest to see if everything went well in your install.

As for deleting directory it's:
rm -r /path/to/directory

I see your other post, try to use the -f option as little as possible until you get to be a guru like Unspawn.

You said "how do I install sawfish once I have it in /usr/local" I am assuming you meant uninstall because you already have it installed (see ./configure make and make install). To uninstall something:
make uninstall
In the directory where you ran "make install".

And be careful what you do as root, you can easily dump your system doing small things.

You don't need to reinstall to recover root's home, but you will be having ALOT of problems (I think you probably only lost the visible files though, not the . files which are the more important ones).

If you do end up reinstalling, this time choose some wm to install as well. They will show up in your boot manager that way, and make life MUCH easier for you.

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Old 10-19-2002, 09:28 PM   #29
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Oh well, that's part of the learning experience I guess, and as long as I don't delete my Window's partition accidentally, I'm fine

I'll try what jdc recommended, my other user profile doesn't seem to be affected at all, and I'm not quite sure how important whatever I deleted was, but I'll probably end up reinstalling with a custom install (so I know exactly what I'm putting on) after I'm done playing around.

Thanks all for all your input.

Back to my original question though, do you think that my AMD K-6 550 processor just can't handle KDE, and thats why kdeinits are taking up so much processor space? Or is there no way to really know until I succesfully get another wm up and running?

-JMagi
 
Old 10-19-2002, 09:30 PM   #30
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I say, yeah, it probably has a rough time handling it. But also, yes, it'd be easier to tell if you tried something light to compare to.

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