RH 7.3 and KDE running verrrrry sloooowwwww
Hello everyone,
I recently finished installing Red Hat 7.3. As soon as I logged on, I noticed that everything was verrrrry slow, the shell took almost a full minute just to load. When I go into KPM, my cpu load stays at just about 95%. It seems that whenever I load any program (the konsole, KPM, etc.) whatever I just loaded suddenly takes up 20-30% of the CPU load. I verified this in TOP in the shell. I have a 550 Mhz AMD processor and 128 mgs of ram, which I have heard shouldn't be a problem. What could be causing this? I was trying to see if KDE was creating the problem because "kdeinit" often shows at the top of the KPM system % list. I was wondering if it is possible to run just the shell, not KDE (like booting in DOS mode for Windows) and then run TOP to see how my cpu utilization is. If so, how do I get into that mode, when you go to log out, theres no "restart in text mode" option or anything like that. I looked all over for a setting to change and I can't figure it out? Any ideas on how to troubleshoot/fix this? Thanks, JMagi |
To kill X and "be in DOS" do this:
after the system boots, and starts it's gui press CTRL ALT F2 Login as root, and supply the password. Type init 3 (might be init3 without the space) This will now have successfully killed your gui. To check press CTRL ALT F7 (or possibly just ALT F7) and if your gui doesn't come up, consider it killed. Now you can use top to view whatever you'd like. To get back into your gui, type, kdm. Cool |
Thanks! That worked, and in TOP now my cpu load is like 1% used and 99% free. So back to my original question, now that we know that without KDE it works fine, what could be causing it to slow down this much. With KDE the used and free CPU load numbers reverse, and the system is almost impossible to work with?
I do have a modem and network card, and my original thought was that some process was continually failing and taking up all the CPU power. However, I went in and disactivated and deleted everything listed on the screen and the problem still persists. If there is some process constantly running, how could I find it. When I go into the Process Manager when KDE _is_ running, the 99.9% CPU load use comes from a few processes that come up to 20 or 30 percent. Those processes can be kdeinit, kpm itself, the konsole, or any program I have running. CPU utilization stays up at 99% even if nothing but the process manager is running (and whatever is running in the background). I'd appreciate any tips or ideas on how to troubleshoot this. Thanks again, JMagi |
I'm having the same problem with Mandrake and KDE. It works fine most of the time, then for some reason it slows to a crawl. Let me know if you figure it out. I don't even know where to begin, brand new to Linux.
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Well, what does 'top' say? Which processes use so much processor time?
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It is normal that kdeinit shows up lots of times in the process list, matter of optimizing the startup time of kde apps. So you have for every application you started one kdeinit process. To know which process belongs to which app use "ps ax"
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What does TOP show? Whatever I am running, be it System Guard, a Konsole window, or Konqueror, that program will suddenly rise up to 50 or 60% CPU usage, and other processes will rise until it is 99% used. Even if the Konsole window for TOP is all I am running in KDE, top itself will go up to 90% or so. Its not a matter of one process taking up the CPU utilization, but whatever small program is running suddenly rising to take up the entire CPU load. Is there some setting I accidentally set to make all programs take all available CPU space? ;)
I appreciate any replies, thanks, JMagi |
Here's an example of my top:
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11:45am up 1:15, 4 users, load average: 2,34, 2,20, 1,95 |
Since I cannot get online with Linux yet, I can't copy and paste the whole screen in there, but I'll list some info. I booted Linux, logged on, and opened a Konsole window to run TOP. Since only about 50% of the CPU was being used up, I opened Konqueror. As it was booting, my top had the following info:
86.0% User 13.3% System 0.0% Nice 0.5% Idle PRI:25 CPU %:57.4 Command: kdeinit That was the top listing, the next few were another kdeinit (11.6% CPU and 15 PRI), X (10.1% and 15 PRI) and kdeinit (8.8% 15 PRI), followed by top itself at 4.4%. Any idea whats wrong? -JMagi |
What are the system's specs? Is it a power rig?
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Sorry, I thought I posted those earlier. The computer we built from scratch (well, not scratch, but you know what I mean). It has a 550 AMD processor and 128 RAM, which I was told by two other people would work fine with RH 7.3 Linux.
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I'm quite worried too, here is my first stats at GNOME:
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2:56pm up 2:14, 1 user, load average: 2,16, 2,12, 2,07 |
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I wish mine had something like that, but its almost always kdeinit or whatever I have running that suddenly rises up to 50 or 60%. It does have a PRI of 25, like I listed above, any ideas?
-JMagi |
Well, I have one, but it's the usual...
Use a different window manager. Something less bloated, like sawfish, XFCE, Fluxbox, or blackbox. You probably have a few of those already on your system to use, so no need to download/install anything yet. Then check TOP and see if you are still getting kdeinit's running. Also, you might wanna see about starting your wm from the command line, this might be a little less resource hungry :confused: Cool |
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