Whenever boot mandrake 10 it says that it successfully restores the sound settings using alsactl but its lying!

Everytime I login I have to increase the volume on the DAC using alsamixer.
I can then use (as root) 'alsactl store' and 'alsactl restore' and it behaves as I would expect.
But when I reboot the machine it loses (or defaults) the mixer settings, turning the DAC volume right down so that I have no sound...

Any ideas on how I can properly store the mixer settings between boots so that I actually get sound on boot rather than having to twiddle things once im in?

you might be able to create an .alsamrc file in your home directory, look into that.

How about adding 'alsactl restore' to the end of you startup scripts?

After a bit more fiddling I have discovered that its only starting KDE that kills the sound.
If Ilog into KDE, run "alsactl restore" manually, the sound comes back.
If I log out and log in again, the sound is gone and a restore fixes it
If i log into Enlightenment or Gnome, the sound is fine...

Theres a barely audible clicking as KDE stats (at about 23% loaded), I assume this is KDE "adjusting" my sound settings...
And there I run out of knowledge.
Any ideas on where to look for the KDE start up scripts so I can maybe see what its trying to do when it kills the sound (and hopefully stop it from doing it)?

So anyone have a clue as to which scripts get run when KDE starts?
Bash uses .bashrc, .bash_profile and .profile, what does kde use? any of these? others?