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Old 08-15-2003, 02:08 PM   #16
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1. Brian, I'm reporting you to the moderators.

2. You can run Xconfigurator anytime from the console (not in the GUI).

3. ALL GUI's modify text files. It's easier. If you're stuck with GUI only, you'll always be a newbie.
 
Old 08-15-2003, 02:28 PM   #17
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Also I would like to add to you, brian__johnson, that your reaction to members that were here helping you isn't going to win you any friends or respect when asking for help on a free public forum. If your rude, it so inclines most to just disregard and move on to the next post. If something doesn't work that a member has mentioned, how hard is it to kindly tell them that "It didn't work? Any other suggestions?"

May I remind you not to personally attack others by calling anyone any sort of name, etc, as its against our rules you agreed to when registering. You may review them here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/rules.php

Be happy you are getting responses, some go unanswered in a free public forum where members are helping others out in their own free time.
 
Old 08-15-2003, 03:01 PM   #18
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Brian,

I've installed Red Hat 5, 6, and 7. I've ran Xconfigurator AFTER the install. I've changed monitors and on some machines ran Xconfigurator to update and some changed the text files. Everytime it worked out fine.

You were rude. I can understand someone being frustrated. Just don't let it happen again. Do you boot directly into a GUI or do you come up to a text console? If you can get out of the GUI, run Xconfigurator as root. The instructions are in the link I posted earlier. If you need further assistance I will still be happy to help.

redhax8
 
Old 09-16-2003, 08:33 AM   #19
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Hi, I was just frustrated too, but found out, I had failed to understand that X have to be restarted after changes (by logging off and on again).
Just changed HorizSync 30.0 - 76.0
to 30.0 - 85.0 in this section in XF86Config:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Proview 770"
HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 150.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

And now it runs 1024x768@85Hz.
Not so difficult, when you find out

NB. Running Red Hat 9.0
 
Old 12-30-2003, 10:31 PM   #20
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Quote:
Originally posted by DIB
Hi, I was just frustrated too, but found out, I had failed to understand that X have to be restarted after changes (by logging off and on again).
Just changed HorizSync 30.0 - 76.0
to 30.0 - 85.0 in this section in XF86Config:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Proview 770"
HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 150.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

And now it runs 1024x768@85Hz.
Not so difficult, when you find out

NB. Running Red Hat 9.0
I'm having the same problem. My distro is Fedora.. How do I know which values to use for HorizSync and VertRefresh? Is it monitor dependent? My monitor is MAG Innovision 986FS.

Thanks in advance!
 
Old 12-30-2003, 11:37 PM   #21
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Forget RedHat man!

I've read so many problems about RH.

I have Xandros and I'm running NVIDIA drivers with GL on 120 Mhz on VewSonic P95f+.

So far I've never used text editor in Xandros 2.0!

Just deleted Mandrake 9.2. It's not point strugling and hear all the time RTFM. :-D

Peace...
 
Old 01-26-2004, 09:16 PM   #22
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Last edited by dolvmin; 01-26-2004 at 09:19 PM.
 
Old 02-01-2004, 04:39 PM   #23
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Quote:
Originally posted by DIB
Hi, I was just frustrated too, but found out, I had failed to understand that X have to be restarted after changes (by logging off and on again).
Just changed HorizSync 30.0 - 76.0
to 30.0 - 85.0 in this section in XF86Config:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Proview 770"
HorizSync 30.0 - 85.0
VertRefresh 50.0 - 150.0
Option "dpms"
EndSection

And now it runs 1024x768@85Hz.
Not so difficult, when you find out

NB. Running Red Hat 9.0
<Coughs> It's not so easy. Simply changing the Horiz*, Vert* settings will not resolve the problem. All these settings do is give RH a understanding of "WHAT" the monitor can do. For example, your monitor specifications show these settings, but Windows can change the refresh rate. That is because these settings are not for altering the resolution and refresh rate. I can understand why Brian is upset. I do not support his last comment, but I empathize toward his opinion.

The settings are actually changed in another file all together. I'll bet you this DIB. Reinstall RedHat with a different monitor. Set the horiz* to 31.5 - 60, and the Vert* to 60 - 75. Shut down your computer and plug in your Proview 770. Turn your computer back on and change those settings back to your appeal through command line, and see if those posted settings of yours meet your appeal. Remember, he doesn't have RH9, so he doesn't have the auto changing resolution built in to RH9. Also, people who do not have a RH compatible monitor need to manually change the settings if there sync rate needs to be altered. Using the GUI to change the resolution will be considered cheating on those post, so push Ctrl + Alt + F1 and change it through command line.

I'll research brian's problem and post a possible fix.

Last edited by dolvmin; 02-01-2004 at 04:47 PM.
 
Old 02-01-2004, 04:45 PM   #24
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Quote:
Originally posted by redhax8
Brian,

I've installed Red Hat 5, 6, and 7. I've ran Xconfigurator AFTER the install. I've changed monitors and on some machines ran Xconfigurator to update and some changed the text files. Every-time it worked out fine.

You were rude. I can understand someone being frustrated. Just don't let it happen again. Do you boot directly into a GUI or do you come up to a text console? If you can get out of the GUI, run Xconfigurator as root. The instructions are in the link I posted earlier. If you need further assistance I will still be happy to help.

redhax8
Xconfigurator may not resolve his problem because if his video card has a set default sync rate (such as ATI Radeon 9000 Pro set to 85hz), RH will automatically set the sync rate to the cards default despite what kind of monitor you have. I should know, I have an LCD monitor that works with a maximum of 75Hz. Each and every install made, regardless of how it is done, sets the refresh rate to 85Hz. Xconfigurator is the same thing as install, so working with this only repeats the problem.

Last edited by dolvmin; 02-01-2004 at 04:48 PM.
 
Old 02-01-2004, 05:15 PM   #25
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Brian, I do not have your monitor specs, so working with variables rather then constants. I'm assuming your max HorizSync is at 80.x and your VertRefresh is at 100.x with a desired refresh rate of 100Hz? If this is incorrect, disregard this post and please post the minimum, maximum HorizSync/VertRefresh, and the bandwidth your video card please.

You got a lot of garbage in this file bud. Most, if not all, is incomplete. I'm assuming there was another script file that may have altered much of this, possibly from a video card driver you installed? Well, the video card driver should not require any information from the Monitor Section, so let's fix this section all up, shall we?

For just the Monitor Section, this is what you had:
Code:
# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"

Identifier "CustomConfiguration"
VendorName "Unknown"
ModelName "Unknown"

# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

HorizSync 80.76

# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.

VertRefresh 100.07

# Modes can be specified in two formats. A compact one-line format, or
# a multi-line format.

# These two are equivalent

# ModeLine "1024x768i" 45 1024 1048 1208 1264 768 776 784 817 Interlace

# Mode "1024x768i"
# DotClock 45
# HTimings 1024 1048 1208 1264
# VTimings 768 776 784 817
# Flags "Interlace"
# EndMode

# This is a set of standard mode timings. Modes that are out of monitor spec
# are automatically deleted by the server (provided the HorizSync and
# VertRefresh lines are correct), so there's no immediate need to
# delete mode timings (unless particular mode timings don't work on your
# monitor). With these modes, the best standard mode that your monitor
# and video card can support for a given resolution is automatically
# used.

# 1024x768 @ 100 Hz, 80.76 kHz hsync
Modeline "1024x768@100" 126.64 1024 1056 1536 1568 768 781 794 807

EndSection
Let's turn it into this:

Code:
Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Proview 770"
        HorizSync    30 - 80
        VertRefresh  60 - 100
        Option      "dpms"
EndSection
Now, reboot the computer.

Now I know this won't fix the refresh rate but the reason why I'm asking you to do this is because you have an interlaced monitor. I do not know if my next step will fix it, so if your monitor does not start up here, do not move to the next step. If you fail to see anything because this step didn't work, simply push Ctrl + Alt + F1. Log in, and refer to using your backup of the XF86Config file.

If your monitor does work follow up with this change:

Code:
Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Proview 770"
        HorizSync    30 - 80
        VertRefresh  60 - 100
        Option      "dpms"

ModeLine "1024x768" 113.76 1024 1072 1312 1408 768 770 782 808 #100Hz
EndSection
Now once again, reboot your computer. This should have done what you asked for, however we are not done.

If this fixed your problem, then move to the next step. The reasoning for this is to set this resolution and sync rate as default for RH.

Finally, change the monitor part of the file to this:

Code:
Section "Monitor"
        Identifier   "Monitor0"
        VendorName   "Monitor Vendor"
        ModelName    "Proview 770"
        HorizSync    30 - 80
        VertRefresh  60 - 100
        Option      "dpms"
  ModeLine "408x306" 20.76 408 432 552 600 306 308 320 346 #100Hz
  ModeLine "416x312" 21.40 416 440 560 608 312 314 326 352 #100Hz
  ModeLine "424x318" 22.05 424 448 568 616 318 320 332 358 #100Hz
  ModeLine "432x324" 22.71 432 456 576 624 324 326 338 364 #100Hz
  ModeLine "440x330" 23.38 440 464 584 632 330 332 344 370 #100Hz
  ModeLine "448x336" 24.06 448 472 592 640 336 338 350 376 #100Hz
  ModeLine "456x342" 24.75 456 480 600 648 342 344 356 382 #100Hz
  ModeLine "464x348" 25.45 464 488 608 656 348 350 362 388 #100Hz
  ModeLine "472x354" 26.16 472 496 616 664 354 356 368 394 #100Hz
  ModeLine "480x360" 26.88 480 504 624 672 360 362 374 400 #100Hz
  ModeLine "488x366" 27.60 488 512 632 680 366 368 380 406 #100Hz
  ModeLine "496x372" 28.34 496 520 640 688 372 374 386 412 #100Hz
  ModeLine "504x378" 29.09 504 528 648 696 378 380 392 418 #100Hz
  ModeLine "512x384" 29.84 512 536 656 704 384 386 398 424 #100Hz
  ModeLine "520x390" 30.61 520 544 664 712 390 392 404 430 #100Hz
  ModeLine "528x396" 31.39 528 552 672 720 396 398 410 436 #100Hz
  ModeLine "536x402" 32.17 536 560 680 728 402 404 416 442 #100Hz
  ModeLine "544x408" 32.97 544 568 688 736 408 410 422 448 #100Hz
  ModeLine "552x414" 33.77 552 576 696 744 414 416 428 454 #100Hz
  ModeLine "560x420" 34.59 560 584 704 752 420 422 434 460 #100Hz
  ModeLine "568x426" 35.41 568 592 712 760 426 428 440 466 #100Hz
  ModeLine "576x432" 36.24 576 600 720 768 432 434 446 472 #100Hz
  ModeLine "584x438" 37.09 584 608 728 776 438 440 452 478 #100Hz
  ModeLine "592x444" 37.94 592 616 736 784 444 446 458 484 #100Hz
  ModeLine "600x450" 41.94 600 632 792 856 450 452 464 490 #100Hz
  ModeLine "608x456" 42.85 608 640 800 864 456 458 470 496 #100Hz
  ModeLine "616x462" 43.77 616 648 808 872 462 464 476 502 #100Hz
  ModeLine "624x468" 44.70 624 656 816 880 468 470 482 508 #100Hz
  ModeLine "632x474" 45.64 632 664 824 888 474 476 488 514 #100Hz
  ModeLine "640x480" 46.59 640 672 832 896 480 482 494 520 #100Hz
  ModeLine "648x486" 47.55 648 680 840 904 486 488 500 526 #100Hz
  ModeLine "656x492" 48.51 656 688 848 912 492 494 506 532 #100Hz
  ModeLine "664x498" 49.49 664 696 856 920 498 500 512 538 #100Hz
  ModeLine "672x504" 50.48 672 704 864 928 504 506 518 544 #100Hz
  ModeLine "680x510" 51.48 680 712 872 936 510 512 524 550 #100Hz
  ModeLine "688x516" 52.48 688 720 880 944 516 518 530 556 #100Hz
  ModeLine "696x522" 53.50 696 728 888 952 522 524 536 562 #100Hz
  ModeLine "704x528" 54.52 704 736 896 960 528 530 542 568 #100Hz
  ModeLine "712x534" 55.56 712 744 904 968 534 536 548 574 #100Hz
  ModeLine "720x540" 56.60 720 752 912 976 540 542 554 580 #100Hz
  ModeLine "728x546" 57.66 728 760 920 984 546 548 560 586 #100Hz
  ModeLine "736x552" 58.72 736 768 928 992 552 554 566 592 #100Hz
  ModeLine "744x558" 59.8 744 776 936 1000 558 560 572 598 #100Hz
  ModeLine "752x564" 60.88 752 784 944 1008 564 566 578 604 #100Hz
  ModeLine "760x570" 61.97 760 792 952 1016 570 572 584 610 #100Hz
  ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616 #100Hz
  ModeLine "776x582" 64.19 776 808 968 1032 582 584 596 622 #100Hz
  ModeLine "784x588" 65.31 784 816 976 1040 588 590 602 628 #100Hz
  ModeLine "792x594" 70.50 792 832 1032 1112 594 596 608 634 #100Hz
  ModeLine "800x600" 71.68 800 840 1040 1120 600 602 614 640 #100Hz
  ModeLine "808x606" 72.86 808 848 1048 1128 606 608 620 646 #100Hz
  ModeLine "816x612" 74.06 816 856 1056 1136 612 614 626 652 #100Hz
  ModeLine "824x618" 75.27 824 864 1064 1144 618 620 632 658 #100Hz
  ModeLine "832x624" 76.49 832 872 1072 1152 624 626 638 664 #100Hz
  ModeLine "840x630" 77.72 840 880 1080 1160 630 632 644 670 #100Hz
  ModeLine "848x636" 78.95 848 888 1088 1168 636 638 650 676 #100Hz
  ModeLine "856x642" 80.20 856 896 1096 1176 642 644 656 682 #100Hz
  ModeLine "864x648" 81.45 864 904 1104 1184 648 650 662 688 #100Hz
  ModeLine "872x654" 82.72 872 912 1112 1192 654 656 668 694 #100Hz
  ModeLine "880x660" 84 880 920 1120 1200 660 662 674 700 #100Hz
  ModeLine "888x666" 85.28 888 928 1128 1208 666 668 680 706 #100Hz
  ModeLine "896x672" 86.57 896 936 1136 1216 672 674 686 712 #100Hz
  ModeLine "904x678" 87.88 904 944 1144 1224 678 680 692 718 #100Hz
  ModeLine "912x684" 89.19 912 952 1152 1232 684 686 698 724 #100Hz
  ModeLine "920x690" 90.52 920 960 1160 1240 690 692 704 730 #100Hz
  ModeLine "928x696" 91.85 928 968 1168 1248 696 698 710 736 #100Hz
  ModeLine "936x702" 93.19 936 976 1176 1256 702 704 716 742 #100Hz
  ModeLine "944x708" 94.54 944 984 1184 1264 708 710 722 748 #100Hz
  ModeLine "952x714" 95.90 952 992 1192 1272 714 716 728 754 #100Hz
  ModeLine "960x720" 97.28 960 1000 1200 1280 720 722 734 760 #100Hz
  ModeLine "968x726" 98.66 968 1008 1208 1288 726 728 740 766 #100Hz
  ModeLine "976x732" 100.05 976 1016 1216 1296 732 734 746 772 #100Hz
  ModeLine "984x738" 106.43 984 1032 1272 1368 738 740 752 778 #100Hz
  ModeLine "992x744" 107.87 992 1040 1280 1376 744 746 758 784 #100Hz
  ModeLine "1000x750" 109.33 1000 1048 1288 1384 750 752 764 790 #100Hz
  ModeLine "1008x756" 110.80 1008 1056 1296 1392 756 758 770 796 #100Hz
  ModeLine "1016x762" 112.28 1016 1064 1304 1400 762 764 776 802 #100Hz
  ModeLine "1024x768" 113.76 1024 1072 1312 1408 768 770 782 808 #100Hz

EndSection

What this step does is provide optional settings for RH so if you would like to change the resolution in a game, such as Neverwinter Nights, you should see the options in (NeverwinterNights Software / XF86Config)

Note:
You will see many of settings but not all of them in all software because they must be preset compatible within the software as well.


If you have done all this and the problem was not resolved, then I'm sorry I couldn't help. I am left to assume that you have complicated scripts leap-frogging between the XF86Config file and the unknown scripts.

Last edited by dolvmin; 02-01-2004 at 05:22 PM.
 
  


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