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Old 07-04-2003, 08:38 PM   #1
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RedHat up2date


Is the RedHat up2date method good to use, or should I do this another way?

I am using RedHat 9 (2.4.20-8), with the KDE interface, and new to Linux, though I have many years experience with Windoze.

At one time in the last few weeks I had the Red Hat Network Alert Icon in the system panel (or whatever it's called), but I've apparently done away with it.

When I chose System Tools, Red Hat Network Alert Icon just now, I got this message:

An error occurred while loading or saving configuration information for rhn-applet. Some of your configuration settings may not work properly.
Details...
Configuration server couldn't be contacted:
CORBA error: IDLmg.org/CORBA/BAD_OPERATION:1.0

What have I done wrong, or what should I do? Or do I just need to run the RedHat Network configuration? I looked at it, but a lot of stuff in there was a bit confusing.

TIA
 
Old 07-04-2003, 08:42 PM   #2
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In a terminal window type: up2date
this should go through the process, and you will be able to see what is happening.
 
Old 07-05-2003, 04:59 PM   #3
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I was getting this error with a couple of applications. For some reason, it disappears when you delete the ~/.gconf and ~/.gconfd folders. (They are immediately recreated.) You may want to move them to a temp directory just in case.

BFK
 
Old 07-05-2003, 10:27 PM   #4
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When I run up2date, RHN wants to install about a gillion things.

I reformatted and reinstalled once just to keep all those *things* from running, this Linux box ran *so slow* with them all.

How do I know which ones to pick, and not? And when it came to the page about kernels, there was a button called Advisory. I clicked it and the browser displayed an hour glass for over 30 minutes, so I canceled.

Help, anyone?
 
Old 07-06-2003, 12:29 AM   #5
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just wait for it. its loading. it happens to me too, guess your a dial-up user.

hehe

and yes the update has a lot of package to install. but you will be given a choice what to install or not.

btw can the up2date be run on a terminal only? with no GUI coz i think thats whats slowing the update..
 
Old 07-11-2003, 02:04 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by jaem
just wait for it. its loading. it happens to me too, guess your a dial-up user.

and yes the update has a lot of package to install. but you will be given a choice what to install or not.

btw can the up2date be run on a terminal only? with no GUI coz i think thats whats slowing the update..

I was using a 2Mbps rx ADSL line.

Read post #4 - I didn't know what to choose, and what to leave off.

I am now using APT, instead of up2date. Running from a terminal, more efficient, and more up 2 date

Thanks
 
Old 07-11-2003, 05:52 PM   #7
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hmm... yeah sometime the up2date hangs.. fetching just the rpm headers...

i will try APT too..

and i didnt even clicked the advisory and it displays the info about the current highlighted rpm, but when i tried to view a different one, it just hangs and the modem activity shyrocketed!
 
Old 07-12-2003, 12:21 PM   #8
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hey, can you give me a walkthrough on the process of updating using apt? im really a n00b.

thanks..
 
Old 07-12-2003, 05:24 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally posted by jaem
hey, can you give me a walkthrough on the process of updating using apt? im really a n00b.

thanks..
Gladly. From one n00b to another. You just have to type what is below in bold.

Get the apt package for your particular distribution from
http://apt.freshrpms.net/

Install it from a terminal, as root, with
rpm -ivh apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr1.i386.rpm (use the binary package for your particular distribution - this is for RedHat 9)

Once that is done, then do this
apt-get update
to update your package list. You don't have to think, just let apt do the work, it'll look at your machine and see what you need, and get the packages for you.
Then do this
apt-get upgrade

Now let her rip, man! Depending upon the speed you receive, it will take some time, during which it will show you the progress like this (42%) and what package it is installing. I am on a 2Mbps adsl line, and it still took a while. You may want to start this at a time when most of the people where you live are asleep. That way there will be less activity through the servers (I do it very early in the morning), and your connectivity will be better, hence, you'll download faster.

Somewhere on these forums there was a detailed explanation about apt. I read the word and suggestions a lot before actually trying it.

This thread
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...antages+of+LFS
was a great help to me. I had been looking for just what the person said in post #3. That is what finally got me to use apt.

Hope this helps you. Let me know. And if one of you Linux gurus reads this, tell me if I left something out or gave bad instructions.

If you get any errors, post them, and I'm sure someone can help you straighten it out.
 
Old 07-13-2003, 02:42 PM   #10
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btw does it also upgrade my kernel to the newest one???
 
Old 07-13-2003, 02:57 PM   #11
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also when i use the up2date of RH9 it lists the kernel update of my current one as with an arch of amd. and the others are of arch i386, the kernel docs and kernel source.

and on start up it says im running-2.4.20-8 on an i686.

what is really my arch???
btw how can i tell apt to dl only the files i want?


btw if you can direct me to a link(or tell me) on how to update/upgrade my kernel properly and have the latest stable version.

thanks....
 
Old 07-13-2003, 03:29 PM   #12
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hey btw i tried up2date with RH9 and it gave me this...


error: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: MD5 digest: BAD Expected(5e397eac8aecae7f3ac3825c00d38
dbf) != (151da4852443604e0284f5aa17615be6)


i wont use the apt yet until someone tells me how to use it to upgrade only the packages that i want. and on how to use it to upgrade my kernel.
 
Old 07-13-2003, 08:20 PM   #13
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jaem,

First, don't let frustration with new terms overwhelm you. Even the *experts* at LQ were once newbies. Most of them are extremely patient. Just backup your data and do some of these things. You'll find out what works and what doesn't. I keep a notebook just for Linux stuff, so I know what I did, where I messed up, and what works. I build and repair computers, so I can't possibly remember everything. I also bookmark good posts in LQ so I can go back and read them again. Plus, get all the RedHat manuals from here:
http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/
and read them. They have lots of answers.

Apt doesn't upgrade the kernel, to my knowledge. Someone gave me a detailed instruction to upgrade my kernel in this thread:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...826#post368826
Read and follow it, and you should be okay. The latest kernel is available from here:
http://www.kernel.org/

I won't try to address your up2date questions, since the purpose of my last post was to direct you to use Apt instead of up2date. The question about your current kernel was also answered in the above mentioned thread.

If I am not mistaken, Apt gives you a choice of which packages to install. Since there are so many packages that I just don't have a clue about, I let it install them all.

Hope this helps.
 
Old 09-20-2003, 07:54 PM   #14
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Hate to reopen an old tread but,
did anyone find out what was causeing the error in the first post
I'm getting the same error when I start the gnome monitor and the up2date button

ehd
 
Old 09-30-2003, 01:29 PM   #15
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Quote:
Originally posted by ehdwuld
Hate to reopen an old tread but,
did anyone find out what was causeing the error in the first post
I'm getting the same error when I start the gnome monitor and the up2date button

ehd
Well Redhat did state that the up2date SSL connection problems are due to an update in the SSL certificate - read more about that here: https://rhn.redhat.com/ (that's the first thing you see).

Also for Chinaman and others,
don't get the newest kernel at www.kernel.org !! If you get it there, then you'll have to compile your own kernel. If you want an update for RH9 or other versions go to redhat's site and get a pre-compiled rpm - just need to install it - no need to make your own version of a kernel!!!

Redhat 9: (kernel and components updates)
https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/rh9-errata.html
 
  


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