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Old 03-04-2011, 06:09 AM   #16
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Experienced sys admin with over 20 years experience of Solaris and HP-UX, but limited Red Hat knowledge.

I dont want to do the basic linux courses and spend days learning how to use vi etc.

I was thinking of jumping straight in and doign the RHCSA Rapid track course or even the RHCE Rapid Track course.

Of course, if I ask Red Hat they'd tell me I had to do the courses before this.

Unfortunately, funds are limited (personal training grant) so its one course only.

Any comments?

It is important to look through the Course Details section on the Red Hat web site. The RHCE Rapid Track course is quite intensive, with a lot of information. Even with 20 years of Solaris, there are still enough differences for it to be a challenging course. You need to have some Red Hat knowledge before you do the course or you *will* struggle, due to the large amount of topics covered.

The RHCE Rapid Track will give you all the info needed to take the RHCSA/RHCE exams. Whether you will remember everything for the exam is another matter.

There are some tests you can do on the Red Hat website to help you gauge your level of knowledge

https://www.europe.redhat.com/training/assess/
 
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:13 AM   #17
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BTW, if you contact Red Hat, they will probably suggest you do the RHCSA Rapid Track first (SysAdmin I + II combined), then top it off with the SysAdmin III course later.
 
Old 03-04-2011, 04:34 PM   #18
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Which ones are the official books? I see quite a few on amazon.

BTW. How much changes between releases of RHEL. Books a few years old are a lot cheaper on amazon !!!!

With regards to the training, I'm lucky because since I'm just about to lose my job, the government will give me £2500 grant to pay for a training course. (Those in the UK, specifically Wales, its called ReACT).


Paul, I meant the books from Red Hat itself. I have got 3 Red Hat official Books:

RHEL Essential, System Administration, and Network Security. My books are over 2 years old now because I got them when I enrolled for the RHCSE course (RHEL 5), but, as I told you, I could not complete it because of the problem I faced the institute.

Your government is great! In India, we need to fight even for... let me leave it.


Well, my shift is over! 3 AM! Take care!
 
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:44 PM   #19
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Which ones are the official books? I see quite a few on amazon.

BTW. How much changes between releases of RHEL. Books a few years old are a lot cheaper on amazon !!!!

With regards to the training, I'm lucky because since I'm just about to lose my job, the government will give me £2500 grant to pay for a training course. (Those in the UK, specifically Wales, its called ReACT).
Not really much different in the releases at all. I still use the old Fedora 5 and RedHat 4 books to setup or to get some info.

You can use VMware server(free and best I'd say) to install the CentOS on your box and get the books from amazon.
RHCE book is one of the best to practice: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Certified-En...9281629&sr=8-3
and get this book as well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linux-Comple...9281720&sr=8-5

These two are covers that you need to know at the exam. (even more)

Don't waste money on fast track courses I guess that is not worth it. I had a chance to go on a few(Microsoft) because my Company paid it, but I didn't get much information that I was expecting from them. I knew 90% of the course and I learned at home by myself every part of it.

Anyway I hope it helped for you.
 
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:45 AM   #20
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BTW, if you contact Red Hat, they will probably suggest you do the RHCSA Rapid Track first (SysAdmin I + II combined), then top it off with the SysAdmin III course later.
Yeh. I already asked them but I guess they just want you to book on as many courses as possible.

Trouble is its a one course deal for me.

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Not really much different in the releases at all. I still use the old Fedora 5 and RedHat 4 books to setup or to get some info.

You can use VMware server(free and best I'd say) to install the CentOS on your box and get the books from amazon.
RHCE book is one of the best to practice: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Certified-En...9281629&sr=8-3
and get this book as well: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Linux-Comple...9281720&sr=8-5

These two are covers that you need to know at the exam. (even more)

Don't waste money on fast track courses I guess that is not worth it. I had a chance to go on a few(Microsoft) because my Company paid it, but I didn't get much information that I was expecting from them. I knew 90% of the course and I learned at home by myself every part of it.

Anyway I hope it helped for you.
Thanks...
 
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You are welcome mate!
 
Old 03-07-2011, 09:21 AM   #22
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Looks like its not going to happen. Red Hat dont seem the slightest bit interested in accepting government funding as payment.

I keep talking to some office clerk who keeps telling me I've gotta pay up front but they'll do me a discount. No matter how many times I tell them its no accept grant no attend course they dont seem to care !!!! :-(
 
Old 03-07-2011, 12:31 PM   #23
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Paual:


Do not bother about getting the certification yet. Downlaod VirtualBox from here:

Lhttp://www.virtualbox.org/

Download Fedora from here:

http://fedoraproject.org/


I recommend VirtualBox for these reasons:

Open Source
Free to use
Create Multiple Virtual Machines (VM)
Install a variaety of Guest Operating Systems whether your Host OS is Windows or Unix or Linux.


I use it on my Host OS: Windows XP SP 2 and have created 2 Virual Machines. But I installed Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.1 only one of them and then created another copy of the Virtual Harddisk. I changed its serial number and then used it with the second Virtual Machine. Installation time saving!


I do not need to specify here how to create a VM. You can easily figure it out and do it yourself.


I think Fedora will be a good choise because we can get the stuffs we see on a Red Hat box. I have not explored other destros such as Centos, and Ubuntu but have installed and seen them before.
 
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:38 PM   #24
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Looks like its not going to happen. Red Hat dont seem the slightest bit interested in accepting government funding as payment.

I keep talking to some office clerk who keeps telling me I've gotta pay up front but they'll do me a discount. No matter how many times I tell them its no accept grant no attend course they dont seem to care !!!! :-(
Sorted now. Got qa training in the uk to accept my grant as payment. The course is even with Red Hat.

Red Hat themselves were being dead awkward. Money up front or nothing as far as they were concerned.
 
Old 03-07-2011, 04:39 PM   #25
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Paual:


Do not bother about getting the certification yet. Downlaod VirtualBox from here:

Lhttp://www.virtualbox.org/

Download Fedora from here:

http://fedoraproject.org/


I recommend VirtualBox for these reasons:

Open Source
Free to use
Create Multiple Virtual Machines (VM)
Install a variaety of Guest Operating Systems whether your Host OS is Windows or Unix or Linux.


I use it on my Host OS: Windows XP SP 2 and have created 2 Virual Machines. But I installed Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.1 only one of them and then created another copy of the Virtual Harddisk. I changed its serial number and then used it with the second Virtual Machine. Installation time saving!


I do not need to specify here how to create a VM. You can easily figure it out and do it yourself.


I think Fedora will be a good choise because we can get the stuffs we see on a Red Hat box. I have not explored other destros such as Centos, and Ubuntu but have installed and seen them before.
Already got Virtual Box. Cool it is.

So whats the difference between Fedora and RHEL?

Can I get a copy of the latest RHEL or do you have to pay for that?
 
Old 03-07-2011, 11:45 PM   #26
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1. RHEL = SW + support + updates and must(!) be paid for (30 day free trial avail; but that's it)
2. Centos = RHEL SW + updates; No support; free
3. Fedora = R&D version of RHEL; forget it for exam purposes or running a serious system.

RHEL 5 & 6 books here http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_boo...ion_index.html online, free to read.
 
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:01 PM   #27
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1. RHEL = SW + support + updates and must(!) be paid for (30 day free trial avail; but that's it)
2. Centos = RHEL SW + updates; No support; free
3. Fedora = R&D version of RHEL; forget it for exam purposes or running a serious system.

RHEL 5 & 6 books here http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_boo...ion_index.html online, free to read.
Thanks for clearing that up...

So if I want to install it myself to teach myself stuff for the exam, Centos is what I want?
 
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Unless you want to pay, yes.
NB: RHEL 6 is out, Centos 6 is close http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/...25878&forum=53.
You might want to check whether RHEL are still doing RHEL5 exams.
Given Centos is free and RHEL/Centos 6 will have a lot in common with 5 (I believe; see links previously) you can start playing with v5 and grab v6 when it comes out.
 
Old 03-09-2011, 03:52 AM   #29
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Unless you want to pay, yes.
NB: RHEL 6 is out, Centos 6 is close http://www.centos.org/modules/newbb/...25878&forum=53.
You might want to check whether RHEL are still doing RHEL5 exams.
Given Centos is free and RHEL/Centos 6 will have a lot in common with 5 (I believe; see links previously) you can start playing with v5 and grab v6 when it comes out.
Red Hat have retired all RHCE courses and exams for RHEL5 in the UK. However, the differences between 5 and 6 at the RHCE level are minimal. If you practise on RHEL5/CentOS5 you will be fine.
 
Old 03-10-2011, 01:16 PM   #30
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Paual:


Do not bother about getting the certification yet. Downlaod VirtualBox from here:

Lhttp://www.virtualbox.org/

Download Fedora from here:

http://fedoraproject.org/


I recommend VirtualBox for these reasons:

Open Source
Free to use
Create Multiple Virtual Machines (VM)
Install a variaety of Guest Operating Systems whether your Host OS is Windows or Unix or Linux.


I use it on my Host OS: Windows XP SP 2 and have created 2 Virual Machines. But I installed Red Hat Enterprise Linux 5.1 only one of them and then created another copy of the Virtual Harddisk. I changed its serial number and then used it with the second Virtual Machine. Installation time saving!


I do not need to specify here how to create a VM. You can easily figure it out and do it yourself.


I think Fedora will be a good choise because we can get the stuffs we see on a Red Hat box. I have not explored other destros such as Centos, and Ubuntu but have installed and seen them before.
Dev,

Did you have any problems with Centos on VirtualBox?
 
  


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