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Old 02-06-2003, 02:28 AM   #1
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Quick pre-install questions...


I'm just about to install Debian on this computer. It has one hard drive which is 10 GB.

Recently I reinstalled MS Windows XP onto this computer but only made a 6 gb partition for it. Now there is 3.50 (approx) gb of unpartitioned space.

My question is: Do I need to partition this space before I install Linux or will I be able to partition it during install?

If I need to do it before how would I be able to partition the space without actually reinstalling xp again? Is there a way to do this?

I know I can do it using Computer Management using Windows XP. Should I do this if needed?

Thank you so much in advance for your help.

-poloktim
 
Old 02-06-2003, 03:37 AM   #2
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Firstly - people feel free to correct me if I go wrong - I'm still quite green to linux.

Right, here we go with the answer.

If you have been using windows on the machine then you'll have an MS file system for your hard disk. That is NTFS for windows XP.

Linux will want a linux compatible file system, so you'll need to set that up. I think most installers will guide you through setting up a file system for your drive. The ones I've used certainly have.

If you end up having to do it manually then do a search on google or the like, for 'linux fdisk' and you should find information on how to use the command (fdisk or cfdisk) to set it up.

I found it handy to go to the website for the version of linux and print off an install guide first to keep it handy for walking you through this installer. It's not like windows setup and for the newbie it could leave you scratching your head.

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Old 02-06-2003, 04:22 AM   #3
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Also read the debian documentation on installing, I believe it covers many of the issues you bring forward here.

Anne
 
Old 02-06-2003, 04:44 AM   #4
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I have been. The only real mention of partitions are on the best way to set the hdd up for installation (eg swap, /, /home etc) not whether or not it will partition unpartioned space.

No real worry, I made sure I transferred all my documents to the computer that won't be receiving Debian, ready for Debian's installation on this one. I'd just like the comfort of knowing.
 
Old 02-06-2003, 04:52 AM   #5
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I never had to bother with this since I have two different hdd's, but I'm quite sure that partitioning may be done just to free up space besides the exisisting installation (XP) and that thus the free space may be formatted and prepared for linux installlation without doing anything with or to the existing installation.

Only thing that happens is that the boot sector of your hdd may be changed (depending on wether you're going to boot from floppy or with a bootloader like grub or lilo) But even if this goes wrong the XP bootloader may be set back to original without having to reinstall (happened to me)

Hope to have eased your mind and succes with your debian installation.

Anne
 
Old 02-06-2003, 05:38 AM   #6
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Thanks
Tomorrow hopefully Debian will arrive in the mail and hopefully by tomorrow night I'll be posting this using Debian
 
Old 02-06-2003, 05:44 AM   #7
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Keep us informed!

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Old 02-11-2003, 03:23 AM   #8
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I was able to fix it all up during install. All is good with that.

Well, I just got Debian today. The installation was smooth apart from a few things, NIC and Sound. That can only be fixed by new cards (they're pos on board on an Aptiva).
The CDs didn't contain the window manager I wanted (fluxbox) and when I typed 'startx' it loaded KDE (which imo looks horrible), they should've contained fluxbox. I can't connect until I get my new nic. And I'll download it then.

But now here is a problem I *hate:* the resolution. It's stuck on 800x600 or *gasp* 640x480. I had it set to be able to also accept 1024x768. How can I get my resolution up to that?

I'm going to persevere with Linux. I'm not giving up. I'd like to be great at it. So could someone please help me?
 
Old 02-11-2003, 03:28 AM   #9
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try editing XFree86 and edit a modline for the resolution you need.
You might also run Xconfig to add resolution settings.

Did you check the linux hardware pages you those nic and sound cards?

Anne
 
Old 02-11-2003, 03:36 AM   #10
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There's no quick GUI way without editing anything?
 
Old 02-11-2003, 03:39 AM   #11
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In Debian I wouldn't know. Most distro's like RH and Mandy do, but my knowledge of Debian tools is limited I'm afraid.

If there is I suspect it to be in the KDE menu.

Anne
 
Old 02-11-2003, 03:46 AM   #12
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I'll reboot into Debian and check now.

Thanks
 
Old 02-11-2003, 03:28 PM   #13
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Debian as a rule of thumb is for people who aren't concerned by the lack of GUIs. You seem to have chosen to dive in at the deep end Redhat for instance provides such a resolution switcher thingy. Oh, I think GNOME and KDE may provide one themselves once XFree 4.3 is out
 
Old 02-12-2003, 07:32 AM   #14
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The resolution/network problem is fixed.
KDE looks a little better now the kicker isn't taking up 50% of the screen when it's set to tiny. I haven't been able to install fluxbox though.
But thanks all.

How I did it: '/etc/X11/XF86Config-4' <-- I edited that, and put my monitors sync rates where they had ungoshly low numbers substituting them. I'm happy with what I have at the moment, I'll want it better soon, but now I'm just going to get the feel of Debian.

mhearn: I chose debian because I know people who if I get fubar'd up for me to fix, they people can come over and show me. So far I haven't needed that.

For those interested this is being written using Debian, KDE, Mozilla.

Thanks everyone.
 
Old 02-12-2003, 07:36 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally posted by poloktim
I chose debian because I know people who if I get fubar'd up for me to fix, they people can come over and show me.
Me thinks, that's a very good reason indeed

Anne
 
  


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