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Old 11-19-2003, 04:58 AM   #16
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Incase if your wondering, I am taking a break from it before I take a hammer to the box. I also want you to know that I appreciate all this help. You are all a great bunch of people.
 
Old 11-19-2003, 05:54 AM   #17
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... Sheesh! It is a good thing to know I will be laughing at all of this a year from now.

*Hides hammer*
In case you were wondering: at one time or the other we all lock away potentially damaging tools .

Just cool down, even righteous wrath clouds perception .

Come back when you are more relaxed, then please answer all earlier questions if possible or indicate the reason why its impossible for you; it makes it so much easier to give help in a straightforward way.

Cheers, and see you.
 
Old 11-19-2003, 07:01 AM   #18
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I have a busy day today... this evening I may tackle it again. But this is what I know so far... I was told that I am missing packages that I need in order for certain things to run on the box. One of the things they said I don't have is the firewall stuff, some of the network stuff, and so on. I kind of wondered why each day the box would ask for me to insert the cd for this, that, and the other. So all of my stuff from my friends point of view is install problems. They said I could do a fix but sense everything is a new set up doing a clean install wouldn't hurt. I don't know what I did wrong during the install. Have any ideas? Friend never did say either, and I don't see this person that often. Should I select the items to install or the default install? Any views on this, one better than the other? If I should select the none default install should I just get everything on the disk, then as I get better at it, I can just turn off the daemons I don't need right? I chose the default I believe the first time. Suggestions?
 
Old 11-19-2003, 07:27 AM   #19
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I don't know what I did wrong during the install. Have any ideas? ... Should I select the items to install or the default install? Any views on this, one better than the other? If I should select the none default install should I just get everything on the disk, then as I get better at it, I can just turn off the daemons I don't need right? I chose the default I believe the first time. Suggestions?
Yes, several and some surmises thrown in. Okay, here goes:

You didn't do anything wrong, but obviously you left out (unintentionally) some pieces you need -- i.e. you most probably did not choose default configuration, which is to all my knowledge quite complete with MDK 9.1.

To my experience not choosing default configuration should be named expert configuration since it is so easy to miss some essential pieces unbeknownst (e.g. SuSE 6.4 needed Apache server for its offline help-function -- guess who deselected Apache ... what's a file server to do on a stand alone system after all). For a beginner I would always propose default (or, if you have enough hd-space everything). And it is not only daemons!

If you have got the time, reinstall default (or everything) with your printer, modem etc. switched on and most probably your problems will vanish. If you want to lick them on an individual basis (lots of adrenaline) go on by all means (I'll be offline 1,5 hours from now till tomorrow) and I'll try to help later. In the mean time you might want to read chapter 4.5.3 of this guide: "I have problems configuring my ppp dial out". Good luck.

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Old 11-20-2003, 05:29 PM   #20
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Ok I got caught off guard yesterday. But I am fixing to do this reformat now. I just think you should know one thing. My modem is a winmodem. I think I may get a hardware modem later on. I found one for around 80 dollars online. I will try to get this driver to work after I get it installed after the reformat. The driver is a .rpm file. I read a few places online and they said that .rpm files make things easier on Linux. So it is odd I believe it would be a headache to install, and set up. Oh well. I will check back later. If this doesn't work this time. I might try to network my computers. I bet that will be fun.
 
Old 11-21-2003, 03:33 AM   #21
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SuSE 9.0 handles at least some winmodems, dunno about MDK. Keep your progress posted .

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Old 11-21-2003, 01:05 PM   #22
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Ok last night what I did is when it was installing there was a screen to popup and only a few selections were already "xed" for selecting my packages to install. So I took as to mean this was the default screen. So I put x's on everything. At the bottom it had a button to click on to pick and choose your own packages. I don't think I am quite ready for that just yet. The only thing that never popped up during the install was a screen to choose what all the user can do. What I wanted to do before my headache even starts up is set up user permissions or what ever it is called so that I can get installed all of my goodies, get them set up with the least amount of NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT! screens. Then when I am done I will just go back and tweak it so I will be safe on the internet. Can I?
 
Old 11-21-2003, 08:21 PM   #23
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Ok I am or was fixing to install the modem driver for the Mandrake. First verification error for the evening reads:

The signature of the package ltmodem blah blah is not correct No GPG signature in package. Do you want to install anyway?
 
Old 11-24-2003, 01:51 AM   #24
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Originally posted by Ghostmaster ... The only thing that never popped up during the install was a screen to choose what all the user can do. What I wanted to do before my headache even starts up is set up user permissions or what ever it is called so that I can get installed all of my goodies, get them set up with the least amount of NO! YOU CAN"T DO THAT! screens. Then when I am done I will just go back and tweak it so I will be safe on the internet. Can I?
Users are created after installation. Reason is, that all installs are done as root. When you pop in the CD for the first time to install, you are root. When you call upon DrakCenter (?) you are root (it will ask you for root's password, when you compile (./configure - make - make install) the make install has to be done as root.

You should get acquainted (if you are not already) with the su commands (su, su -, Kdesu -- use man and info), they let you do anything as root form a normal user's place and thus stay secure even on the net (well, more or less secure ).

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Originally posted by Ghostmaster ... The signature of the package ltmodem blah blah is not correct No GPG signature in package. Do you want to install anyway?
Sure. What do you have to loose? And if it doesn't work, you even have a suspect. What the message really says is that it has no GPG signature (in the distribution provided), not that the software is faulty.

You might at a later time go to the Mandrake site and download the signature or a complete packet with signature and do a control or complete reinstall of that package.
 
  


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