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Old 06-21-2011, 07:12 PM   #1
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puppy Linux on USB, not enough space


Hi.
I have a 16gb usb drive on which I have installed puppy linux.
On the desktop at the bottom right corner it shows that I have a 3.9gb persona storage space.

On my USB it shows 10gb of free space.

Now I want to install Java, netbeans and some other applications on it.
When I install, it says not enough space.
I tried to install it on the usb
Quote:
/mnt/home
but it gave me same message.

Any help?
Thanks
 
Old 06-21-2011, 08:16 PM   #2
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post the output of (as root)

Code:
df -h
 
Old 06-22-2011, 12:00 PM   #3
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I have installed JAVA and it is working.
But when I try to install NetBeans on /mnt/home the installer runs , but give a message that
Quote:
Insufficient disk space for extracting the installation data. Additional 106.2 MB is required in /root/.nbi.

And when I try to install it on "my-documents". It gives the message that,
Quote:
There is not enough free disk space to extract installation data 156 MB of free disk space is required in a temporary folder.

On the bottom right corner I have
Quote:
3.9G personal storage, free space = 3.5G
 
Old 06-22-2011, 02:01 PM   #4
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post the output of (as root)

Code:
df -h
Post the output of the above command.

You need to type it into the terminal.
 
Old 06-22-2011, 04:01 PM   #5
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The output is:
Code:
Filesystem	Size	Used	Avail	Use%	Mount on
rootfs		501M    4.0M	497M	  1%   	/
/dev/sdb1	15G     4.2G    11G	 28%	/initrd/mnt/dev_save
/dev/loop1	4.0G    908M    3.1G 	 23%    /initrd/pup_ro1
tmpfs		501M	4.0M    497M	  1%    /initrd/pup_rw
tmpfs		125M    124M    876K	100%   	/initrd/mnt/tmpfs
/dev/loop0	124M    124M       0  	100%   	/initrd/pup_ro2
unionfs		501M    4.0M    497M	  1%    /
shmfs		185M       0	185M 	  0%    /dev/shm
 
Old 06-22-2011, 06:45 PM   #6
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Please post the output of
Code:
. /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE ; echo 'PUPMODE='"$PUPMODE"
. /etc/DISTRO_SPECS ; echo "$DISTRO_NAME" "$DISTRO_VERSION"
cat /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONFIG
About df -h :

dev/sdb1 15G 4.2G 11G 28% /initrd/mnt/dev_save : should be your usb-pen

/dev/loop0 124M 124M 0 100% /initrd/pup_ro2 : should be your Puppy.sfs

tmpfs 501M 4.0M 497M 1% /initrd/pup_rw : should be your pupsave-file.[2|3|4].fs ... why it is mounted tmpfs I'll have to study the initrd.gz

/dev/loop14.0G 908M 3.1G 23% /initrd/pup_ro1 : could be also your save-file or an additional .archive.sfs ; _ro1 indicates mounted read-only ... so not useable to install anything into it and mounted by the initrd.gz .

tmpfs 125M 124M 87 100% /initrd/mnt/tmpfs : also the main Puppy.sfs mounted second time . If that is really needed I don't know but is a leftover from the initrd.gz and standard in Puppy .

The output of the
Code:
mount
command would be useful also .
 
Old 06-22-2011, 07:45 PM   #7
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After taking a short look into /init of initrd.gz :
Code:
#Unionfs layers setup by this script...
#unionfs layers:            RW (top)      RO1             RO2              PUPMODE
#full install, flash drive: tmpfs         PDEV1                            3
#First boot (or pfix=ram):  tmpfs                         pup_xxx.sfs      5
#pup_save is a partition:   PDEV1                         pup_xxx.sfs      6
#ditto, but flash drive:    tmpfs         PDEV1           pup_xxx.sfs      7
#Normal running puppy:      pup_save.3fs                  pup_xxx.sfs      12
#ditto, but flash drive:    tmpfs         pup_save.3fs    pup_xxx.sfs      13
#Multisession cd/dvd:       tmpfs         folders(tmpfs2) pup_xxx.sfs      77 (13+64)
Acoording to the df output it seems to be not a full install on flash drive because PDEV1=sdb1 and ro2 exists , no first-boot because ro1 exists , not a frugal installation with using the whole partition because ro1!=PDEV1 .

The only possibility here seems to be a normal frugal install on the usb drive .

The init script allocates the rw tmpfs by roughly the half size of free RAM ( + $EXTRAALLOCK ) .

You can install anything I guess , which is not larger extracted than the available 501M pup_rw at once .

I don't know anything about NetBeans or Java but the development downloads may be more than 100MB compressed .

Puppy seems to default to mount ro while installed to flash drive to reduce the writings to it to make it last longer . There is the icon on the desktop to click to save manually . There is a default value for writings to flash drives adjustable in Menu>System>Eventmanager .

alternatively you can try to
Code:
 mount -o remount,rw /dev/loop1 /initrd/pup_ro1
manually for a period of time and
Code:
 mount -o remount,ro /dev/loop1 /initrd/pup_ro1
after you finished your additional installations .

Because of low USB speed , I would install to HD if you want to compile . USB is for temp portability , fast and simple 3G internet access , and rescue the HD . It is also possible to boot Puppy from USB with an always rw save-file on HD by booting 'puppy pfix=ram' at bootsplash , clicking reboot in the menu and creating the save-file on the HD , not on the USB .

Last edited by Karl Godt; 06-22-2011 at 07:49 PM.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 02:27 AM   #8
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Sorry, but I did not fully understand what you have just said.
and is there no way I can make puppy linux persistence?
so I can take my usb anywhere with all my software and configurations installed.
 
Old 06-23-2011, 01:07 PM   #9
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Old 06-24-2011, 01:11 PM   #10
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Old 06-27-2011, 04:48 AM   #11
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You dont't reach anything with such icons .

I requested the output of

Code:
. /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE ; echo 'PUPMODE='"$PUPMODE"
. /etc/DISTRO_SPECS ; echo "$DISTRO_NAME" "$DISTRO_VERSION"
cat /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONFIG
and
Code:
mount
Just copy'n'paste this to the "console" urxvt or rxvt terminal.

This USB frugal installation is Puppy specific and I do not know any distros which uses this , too .

Mounting or booting an .ISO on an USB is similar to mounting or booting an .SFS , but no distro I know of uses a "save-file" .

There is a Puppy section here @LQ and also the murga-linx forum .

If you would have posted there , you would get much more replies , I guess .
 
Old 06-27-2011, 08:15 PM   #12
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I tried the murga-linx forum,
It requires Confirmation code to register user, and there is no confirmation code there, just a blank space.

the output of mount is:
Code:
rootfs on / type rootfs (rw,relatime)
/dev/sdb1 on /initrd/mnt/dev_save type vfat (rw,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,quiet,errors=remount-ro)
/dev/loop1 on /initrd/pup_ro1 type ext2 (rw,noatime,errors=continue)
tmpfs on /initrd/pup_rw type tmpfs (rw,relatime)
tmpfs on /initrd/mnt/tmpfs type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=127336k)
/dev/loop0 on /initrd/pup_ro2 type squashfs (ro,noatime)
unionfs on / type aufs (rw,relatime,si=a8d3f3d4)
none on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,gid=2,mode=620)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)
shmfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=188820k)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,relatime)unionfs on / type aufs (rw,relatime,si=a8d3f3d4)
none on /proc type proc (rw,relatime)
none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,relatime,gid=2,mode=620)
none on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime)
shmfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,relatime,size=188820k)
none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw,relatime)
and
Code:
. /etc/rc.d/PUPSTATE ; echo 'PUPMODE='"$PUPMODE"
. /etc/DISTRO_SPECS ; echo "$DISTRO_NAME" "$DISTRO_VERSION"
cat /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONFIG


OUTPUT IS:
PUPMODE=13 ./etc/DISTRO_SPECS
Lucid Puppy 525 cat /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONFIG
 
Old 06-28-2011, 04:54 AM   #13
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Code:
cat /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONFIG
and [ENTER] !

The output should look like :
PREVUNIONRECORD='sqpsave-002_1.3fs sqp-002.sfs'
LASTUNIONRECORD='sqpsave-002_1.3fs sqp-002.sfs'
 
Old 06-28-2011, 05:13 AM   #14
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People messing with JAVA IDE and not willing to post simple shell instructions , I really start to hate .

I've looked for
http://netbeans.org/downloads/index.html

and the 200MD DL would extract to 600-800MB I guess and that would
definetely not fit into your 500MB
tmpfs 501M 4.0M 497M 1% /initrd/pup_rw
at once .

You would need to upgrade the RAM for 1GB to get 500MB tmpfs more.
 
Old 06-28-2011, 09:24 PM   #15
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cat /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONFIG

Quote:
PREVUNIONRECORD='lupusave_crypta-first.2fs lupu_525.sfs'
EXTRASFSLIST=' skype_static-2.1.0.81.sfs'
LASTUNIONRECORD='lupusave_crypta-first.2fs lupu_525.sfs skype_static-2.1.0.81.sfs'
You have previously mentioned that it it a frugal install.
By making a full install again, should solve this problem???
 
  


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