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Old 11-21-2004, 02:49 AM   #1
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Question problrm connecting to the internet


hi everybody,

I amvery very very new to the world of linux. I got Knoppix LIVE CD from one of my friends who downloaded and burned the latest Knoppix LIVE CD (i think it has a release date of Aug 2004 or something).

I have inserted the LIVE CD in my CD-ROM drive booted the PC and got some options to choose from. I did not know what to choose, so Linux after a few seconds decided for me what mode it is going to start. I like that. It does not make me choose and chooses everything for me. The automatic detection was in progress, then, here comes linux.

I then tried to connect to the internet using "kppp" (I am trying to dial up my ISP).

I defined the connection name manually, defined the domain name, define the primary and secondary DNS IP (in the DNS list), and defined the "PAP" as the authentication protocol.

I followed the help manual exactly as mentioned in the dial up help section.

Afterwards, when I hit the "conect" button, I can hear the modem dialing, and read "logging on into netowrk", and then I expect the connection to be established, but no, the connection dies. and the log windows shows "the ppp daemon died unexpectdly" and when i check te logs , it says "culd not write to the following files" (3 files) :

/var/log/syslog
/var/log/syslog.conf (or something like that)
var/log/ppp ( or something like that)

and in the main log window the last thing i saw was "ppp timed out"

What am i doing wrong?

Can anybody help
 
Old 11-21-2004, 04:31 AM   #2
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I don't know much about knoppix. But from your words I think you need to log in as root for using ppp.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 04:35 AM   #3
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Since you're booting from CD, the /var directory is contained on that CD and therefore is not writable! I think that's what is causing ppp to crash. You most likely have to install to a hard drive first. Otherwise I think it is working correctly.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 04:43 AM   #4
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run it as root, and set pppd arguements to include "noauth" (check man to verify). in essence your pppd is not getting authentication back and decided that it want's it (there probalby is a better way to fix it), but that will make it work.

One other thing, i'm not sure what authentication you were set to before, but don't use the wrong one, because last time i played with that, i got the same error message.

I'd verify the authentication method, if it's right (as it probably is, since you followed the documentation), go noauth.
 
Old 11-21-2004, 06:14 AM   #5
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actually I found it having "noauth" argument already, the authentication protocol is set to "PAP" which is the same as my ISP uses.

One problem left.

I do not know the root password that came with the LIVE CD.

Any hints?
 
Old 11-21-2004, 04:58 PM   #6
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guys,

I managed to run it as root (after alot of reading), and I managed to set the pppd arguements to include "noauth". I can see the logs now. the modem communicates, sends the user name and then the password then it times out. I noticed one thing in the log though. The user password is sent "hidden".

then it dies.

that makes me wonder if its really possible to connect to the net (using dial up) using knoppix LIVE CD or must I install Linux, because if installation is a must, then I dont think LIVE CD serves the purpose.


any more hints guys?????


if there aint any, would any one recommend any LIVE CD that does automatic configuration for the hardware and connects to the net without a headache using dial-up???

I want to learn more about linux before I install it on my hard drive. I just wanna know if it is worth it to migrate to linux or not, and I want to know that by using it first.

any ideas?
 
Old 11-21-2004, 05:49 PM   #7
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hmm ... strange, the reason the password is sent as hidden is that in case someone snooped through your logs they'd get your password.

i just checked the default config (which has always worked for me) and it is PAP/CHAP. The only thing i have left is to say you try it with that setting, and if it doesn't work ... hmmm ...

It seems all a little strange. A little googling said that Knoppix isn't particularly good configuring modems and to do it manually ... So ... i dunno ... the fact it's dialing up is a pretty good sign that all should be working.

Sorry i can't help ... good luck
 
Old 11-22-2004, 08:27 AM   #8
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Problem connecting online - dial up

any more hints guys??????????????

Please heeeeeeeeeeeeeeelp
 
Old 11-22-2004, 10:05 AM   #9
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I just wanna know if it is worth it to migrate to linux or not, and I want to know that by using it first.

YES it is very worth it.
Example: tidied my front room up today, found my xp cd, it had been stepped on and had snapped in half. I didn't care...
at all.

Try the mandrake move live cd or the Ubuntu live cd or the Suse live cd.
Possibly in that order...
 
Old 11-22-2004, 01:37 PM   #10
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hi salparadise,

everybody recomnded MANDRAKE MOVE more than any other distro. So i guess the common distro that everyone agrees on is MANDRAKE MOVE. But, i can not download it from thier site because i have to be a member first (and that costs mony).

any ideas?
 
Old 11-22-2004, 02:12 PM   #11
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http://www.linuxiso.org/distro.php?distro=29

the 9.2 live cd is here (towards the bottopm of the page)

alternatively
there is a linux magazine here in the uk (current issue) that has the 10.1 (i think) live cd in iso format on the cover dvd
not sure which magazine, we got it at work,
i could tell you tomorrow if you want
 
Old 11-23-2004, 08:46 AM   #12
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thanks salparadise,

I really appreciate the help. and yes please I am interested in that magazine rather than wait for all that time of download the distro.

Thanks in advance
 
  


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