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Old 01-20-2004, 08:06 AM   #1
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Problems with Nvidia drivers - again!


Chaps,

Suse 8.1, fresh install, Nforce Mobo, Asus GF TI4400. Got the latest drivers from NVIDIA, followed the SuSe linux specific install instructions to the letter.

Now when I start X, I get the Nvidia splash screen, so all looks good except that any 3d app says that the card doesn't support 3D.

I've repeated this several times, being careful to follow the steps exactly but no joy.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

Pete
 
Old 01-20-2004, 08:34 AM   #2
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Try going to the Nvidia archive's and using the previous version of the driver - it's 4496 pkg2.run. Lots of us have had problems with the new version (5328 or so) of the Nvidia drivers. And, try running glxgears in a term and see what FPS you get. This will let you know if you're getting 3D more than some app telling you. We all know that the card supports 3D. If the SuSE specific install doesn't work, try the Nvidia method.
 
Old 01-20-2004, 09:23 AM   #3
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i may be wrong, but it just seems like you did everything correctly but forgot to put Load "glx" in your XF86Config .. .
 
Old 01-21-2004, 06:26 AM   #4
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Thanks for the help so far chaps. Its till not working though....

OK I tried the same install sequence with the 44.96 version drivers. I got exactly the same symptoms.

Splash screen at bootup, 3Ddiag says everything is ok.

In /etc/x11/XF86Config -

Section "module"
Load "glx"

Section "Device"
BoardName "GeForce4 Ti 4400"
Driver "nvidia"

If I run glxgears in a console window I get a frame rate of around 6700fps.

When I try to run a 3D application, which I have used on an older machine so I know they support hardware 3D, it says -

Warning.....
3D hardware support not available
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
No 3D graphics card available or 3D support not
configured yet. However application uses
respectively requires 3D hardware support.
[Continue] [Abort]

This is exactly the same with two different vers of driver, and noone else appears to have this particular issue, so it is definitely me doing something wrong, but what?

Cheers

Pete
 
Old 01-21-2004, 07:03 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by baldy3105
Thanks for the help so far chaps. Its till not working though....

OK I tried the same install sequence with the 44.96 version drivers. I got exactly the same symptoms.

Splash screen at bootup, 3Ddiag says everything is ok.

In /etc/x11/XF86Config -

Section "module"
Load "glx"

Section "Device"
BoardName "GeForce4 Ti 4400"
Driver "nvidia"

If I run glxgears in a console window I get a frame rate of around 6700fps.

When I try to run a 3D application, which I have used on an older machine so I know they support hardware 3D, it says -

Warning.....
3D hardware support not available
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
No 3D graphics card available or 3D support not
configured yet. However application uses
respectively requires 3D hardware support.
[Continue] [Abort]

This is exactly the same with two different vers of driver, and noone else appears to have this particular issue, so it is definitely me doing something wrong, but what?

Cheers

Pete
Pete,

Read man glxgears. Here's part of it
Quote:
glxgears is a GLX demo that draws three rotating gears, and prints out framerate information to stdout.
So, I don't know what that program's problem is. I remember another guy who said some SuSE program was complaining when his card worked great.

Did you choose Continue instead of abort?

You have 3D acceleration, and not many people get 6700 FPS. That's incredible.
 
Old 01-21-2004, 09:52 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chinaman

You have 3D acceleration, and not many people get 6700 FPS. That's incredible.
that is incredible
 
Old 01-21-2004, 10:09 AM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by trey85stang
that is incredible
harumph
Code:
35336 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7067.200 FPS
36795 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7359.000 FPS
36134 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7226.800 FPS
35843 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7168.600 FPS
34410 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6882.000 FPS
31585 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6317.000 FPS
35204 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7040.800 FPS
35288 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7057.600 FPS
35205 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7041.000 FPS
36060 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7212.000 FPS
36820 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7364.000 FPS
31958 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6391.600 FPS
34470 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6894.000 FPS
33062 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6612.400 FPS
34319 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6863.800 FPS
34024 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6804.800 FPS
34856 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6971.200 FPS
34959 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6991.800 FPS
33449 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6689.800 FPS
34156 frames in 5.0 seconds = 6831.200 FPS
35129 frames in 5.0 seconds = 7025.800 FPS
And I don't play ANY games EVER and I want my ATI card back because the display looks BETTER than this Nvidia card, which is twice the card!
 
Old 01-22-2004, 05:25 AM   #8
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Hey! I wasn't after a competition, I never said it was fast, but working properly would be nice !

Any more suggestions as to where I go from here?

Cheers
 
Old 01-22-2004, 06:10 AM   #9
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Originally posted by baldy3105 Hey! I wasn't after a competition, I never said it was fast, but working properly would be nice !

Any more suggestions as to where I go from here?

Cheers
Hey, never meant it as a competition, just ran it cause I was curious. I still want an ATI card - they just display better!

Well, if you want my opinion, I'll give it. Change distributions. You have 3D accleration, and better than most of the guys who play games. I think if they get 3000 FPS they say that's good enough. I don't know - don't have time or desire for games. P.O.

The question you should be asking is this: "Why does my SuSE box (or the particular application, whatever outputs that error message) tell me this when I try to play a game
Quote:
Warning.....
3D hardware support not available
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
No 3D graphics card available or 3D support not
configured yet. However application uses
respectively requires 3D hardware support.
when I have great 3D accleration?

I ask again - when you get that message, have you tried Continue? (I would suspect so).

What is the application that gives this message? Glxgears is a 3D application. Did it give that message? You are beyond me now, unless I can try the same application that gives you the message.
 
Old 01-22-2004, 01:43 PM   #10
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I'm trying to get into the position where I can dump Windows, but I'm quite partial to the odd shoot em up. Before I go resizing my partition so that I can fit something like Unreal Tournament 2003 on it I would like to see it working. SuSe comes with a dozen or so small 3D games and apps so I installed them to test it. So far the ONLY OpenGL app that works is gears! I have installed some before the drivers were installed and some after. When I hit continue some continue sometimes but most don't. I know these apps work because I've had the same distro installed on an older machine with a GF3.

Different apps, different driver versions, always the same problem, it MUST be something I'm doing wrong as no one else appears to have these problems.

Very annoying.
 
Old 01-22-2004, 10:15 PM   #11
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Pete,

Have you tried posting the exact error message, and some of
these details, in another thread? I think there are many gamers
who browse LQ, and maybe one of them can help you.

For instance, start a thread with a title something like
OpenGL apps don't work in SuSE
or
"3D hardware support not available" error but glxgears gets 6700 FPS
and post it in the Linux - Games forum.

This problem sounds like it's either specific to SuSE, or to
the app you're trying, but not to the Nvidia drivers.
 
  


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