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Old 10-20-2014, 12:21 AM   #1
kevinbenko
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Problems with gmail w/ kmail and icedove


Hi, I have had a stroke three years ago, and I have difficulty understanding things sometimes. Please forgive me.

I started having trouble sending email via kmail a few days ago. The last time I had sent an email was on 8 September 2014, and it was working at that time.

I get an error that says:

"Failed to transport message. The server did not accept the sender address "my.email@address". The server responded: 5.5.1 Authentication Required. Learn more at 5.5.1 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/a...y?answer=14257 x193sm3942629iod.17 - gsmtp"

I had tried to install and configure icedove (thunderbird), but I couldn't complete it and was given an error:

"Sending of password for user my.email@address did not succeed. Mail server pop.googlemail.com responded: Web login required: https://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=78754"

Which points me at the previous message. I had done everything that gmail said I should do, including the two-step authentication, I used a new account on my computer and it threw the same error, I uninstalled and reinstalled kmail and exim4. I have removed the offending gmail account and reinstalled it from scratch, but it still throws the error.

But the same problem exists, I cannot send email with kmail. I AM able to use kmail to a non-gmail account successully, so I think that the problem could be a problem with either gmail, or a fundamental problem with my computer that gmail doesn't like.

Now, I know that complaining to gmail is a futile exercise, and I will grow old and die before they respond to my questions in any real way. Is it possible that the problem has been caused by systemd <spit>? Can anyone make some other suggestions for me to try.

BTW, I currently have have 6 gmail addresses and one non-gmail address, so it would be difficult for me to move all of my mailing lists to a different server.
 
Old 10-20-2014, 02:53 AM   #2
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Are you able to log into your gmail account via the gmail webpage using the same password as the one being rejected when used in an email client?
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Old 10-20-2014, 02:04 PM   #3
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Yes, I can log into all of my gmail accounts. For some reason, even though I had made another account to test it, I saved my emails and then I deleted my entire kmail account and have built them from scratch.

I will now change all of my passwords on email, and within kmail, and see what happens.
 
Old 10-20-2014, 03:28 PM   #4
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I have changed all of my google-related passwords and I still have the same error.

I have also changed the exim4 configuration to change the configuration to use PLAIN text passwords in accordance to the suggestion from google help, I did a restart on exim4 and it still failed, so I changed it back.

Now, I really dislike webmail, I would rather have a pop3 account rather than resort to webmail. And even some people use other clients, it doesn't matter-- kmail should be able to send email to google, as it did on 8 September 2014. So either google hates me, or I have made a change to my computer that google doesn't like.
 
Old 10-21-2014, 12:09 AM   #5
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For what it's worth, I use Thunderbird as my email client and the security settings are as follows:
Quote:
Connection security: SSL/TLS
Authentication method: Normal password
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Old 10-21-2014, 04:06 PM   #6
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Here is what I done today to attempt to resolve this problem/error.

I checked that gmail has been setup to use POP3. I has.
I used an older computer of mine and installed Debian/stable and installed Kmail, icedove (AKA thunderbird), claws-mail, and evolution. I had the same problem on THAT computer that I have been having on my main computer.

On the plus side, I was about to do a reinstall, but does not seem to be my computer, systemd (spit), or anything I have done to my computer.

It seems to me that it, in some way, is a problem with Gmail, or somewhere outside of my computer. Since I have a 50MB connection speed, it is probably not my network speed. But I have no idea what is going on with my computer and gmail.
 
Old 10-21-2014, 05:21 PM   #7
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I thought Gmail stopped allowing pop3 and only allowed IMAP now?
 
Old 10-22-2014, 05:38 PM   #8
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Nope, they still allow POP3.

I think I have fixed it, but I need to test it...
 
Old 10-22-2014, 10:39 PM   #9
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OK, I seem to have fixed my problems.

Understand that I had a stroke about three years ago, and am now brain-damaged, and I have short-term memory loss and a great deal of what I used to know is now gone. And since I NEVER took notes, it really is gone.

But I still use Linux exclusively.

After having changed my gmail passwords a few times, in the one of my gmail (or maybe it was google+) I had the opportunity to reduce the "protection" of my accounts to allow my so-called inferior email client to send and receive gmail. Now, I had tried to find the page in question, and I do recall the menu was listed as being "security" but after having looked for it on google/gmail/google+ for about 15 minutes, I couldn't find it again.

So, whatever. When I had reduced my security level, I was then able to send and receive gmail again.
So, it has been fixed, and my issue has been resolved for me.

Now I have been looking for another pop3 email account so that I can escape from Gmail. While my ISP does have pop3 accounts, when I move again, I need to move all of those damn email accounts. That sucks. So, wish me luck in my next endeavor.
 
Old 10-23-2014, 04:37 PM   #10
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If you're willing to pay an extremely small fee, softhome.net and fastmail.com (may still be fastmail.fm, but I know it's changing to .com) both offer ad-free email you can configure for use with your favorite email client (I use both with their "pro" email system).
 
  


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