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Old 12-27-2004, 04:56 AM   #1
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Lightbulb PROBLEM INTERNET REALTEK8139(Genius LAN GF100TXRII).


Hi,

Problem : Using the settings from windows(IP address, Host name etc)
------ I configured my network card under SuSe 9.2, KDE installation
------ on PII 200 MMX.

------ The Manual NETWORKING-HOWTO explained me it was normal that
------ my Genius LAN GF100TXRII network card is detected as a
------ REALTEK8139.
------ I think everything works OK but that I am missing a small detail in my configuration.
------ Even though the boot up seems to state that my network card gets detected correctly,
------ I seem not to be able to access the Internet.


My Profile : Internet connection at our university is through LAN.
------ My network card is Genius LAN GF100TXRII about 4 years old,
------ which is needed to get access to Internet.
------ It works under windows, just to state that the info regarding the
------ settings(IP address) should be correct.

****WINDOWS INFORMATION REGARDING MY NETWORK CARD SETTINGS****
Genius LAN GF100TXRII PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
(in SuSe, according to manual, should be Realtek 8129/8139)

relating to TCP/IP Properties.

IP : 134.184.124.31 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0
Wins Configuration DISABLED.
Allow Binding to ATM Value : No
Gateway 134.184.124.100
DNS configuration ENABLED
--------Host : nwl045 Domain vub.ac.be
---------DNS Server search order : 134.184.250.7
--------- 134.184.15.13
---------Domain Suffix Search Order : vub.ac.be
------------------------------------------ ulb.ac.be



AND I USED THIS INFORMATION LIKE THIS
**********SuSe Network Card Configure*************

NETWORK ADDRESS SETUP
Choose Setup Method
------ Static address setup IP : 134.128.124.31 Subnet Mask 255.255.255.0

Detailed settings
------ * Host name and Detailed settings
------ Host name newl045 Domain Name vub.ac.be
------ * Name servers and domain search list
------ 1) 134.184.250.7 1)vub.ac.be
------ 2) 134.184.15.13 2)ulb.ac.be
------ * Routing
------ Default Gateway EMPTY
------ ROUTING TABLE EMPTY
ENABLE IP FORWARDING ---> YES (although I don't know if applicable to my situation.)
ADVANCED


------ 1) HARDWARE Details
------------ Manual network card configuration
------------ Name eth-id-00:c0:df:01:b8:1b
------------ Hardware name bus-pci-0000:00:09.0
------------ Kernel Module
------------------ HW Configuration name bus-pci-0000:00:09.0
------------------ Module name : 8139too Options EMPTY
------ 2) DHCP Client Options ---> Don't use it.
------ 3)Detailed Settings
------------ MTU I can set it, but how, should I say 10Mbits or something ?
------------ Device Activation At Boot time.
------ 4) Additional Addresses NONE.

----------> AND I EXPECT TO HAVE MADE SOME MISTAKE IN HERE



Just in case you need MORE information.
BOOT UP :
-Note I don't know how to log the boot up information, so I had a hard time in
copying it by the stone age way, Paper and pencil. Therefor the information might not be 100%, but I hope it is clear and detailed enough.

At some point regarding my network configuration I saw the following :

8139too Fast Ethernet driver 0.9.27
PCI Found IRQ10 for device 0000:00:09.0
PCI Sharing IRQ10 with device 0000:00:07.2 ---> Sharing with whom ?
could it cause a conflict ?
etho : Realtek RTL8139 at 0x8864000, 00:c0:df:01:b8:1b, IRQ 10
Setting up Host newl045.vub.ac.be
Setting up network interface
lo ???????
lo IP address 127.0.0.1/8 -------->I never gave it in where does it come from ?
etho Realtek semiconductor .......
etho configuration 00:00:df:01:b8:1b
etho IP address 134.128.124.31

Last edited by GnaM; 12-28-2004 at 10:41 AM.
 
Old 12-27-2004, 05:11 AM   #2
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lo is the loopback interface, it's needed by some programs and points to your own computer, leave it as it is.

However, this seems strange to me:
Default Gateway EMPTY

You should have default gateway. In the Win section it says 134.184.124.100 for gateway.
In the command line:
route add default gw 134.184.124.100
See if now it works.
 
Old 12-27-2004, 11:27 AM   #3
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GATEWAY IS THE ANSWER ?

Hi,
iZvi wrote :
Quote:
route add default gw 134.184.124.100
Thank you for your reply, however,
I did as you said, but it didn't make any difference.

Regards.
 
Old 12-27-2004, 01:21 PM   #4
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Sorry, it was just a suggestion. I'm not very experienced and can't do much. Please if it's possible, post the output of ethtool eth0, ifconfig eth0, route, contents of /etc/resolv.conf.

As for the IRQ sharing, check with lspci, which device has this bus id. If the interface (eth0) is up, there probably aren't conflicts with the other device.

Last edited by iZvi; 12-27-2004 at 01:23 PM.
 
Old 12-27-2004, 05:12 PM   #5
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The Requested Output

iZvi requested in previous post the following output
---------1) ethtool eth0,
---------2) ifconfig eth0,
---------3) route,
---------4) contents of /etc/resolv.conf.
---------5) lspci (to check conflicts IRQ10)

------------1) ethtool eth0

Settings for eth0:
-------Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
--------------Supported link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
---------------------------------- 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
--------------Supports auto-negotiation: Yes
--------------Advertised link modes: 10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full
----------------------------------- 100baseT/Half 100baseT/Full
--------------Advertised auto-negotiation: Yes
--------------Speed: 10Mb/s
--------------Duplex: Half
--------------Port: MII
--------------PHYAD: 32
--------------Transceiver: internal
--------------Auto-negotiation: on
--------------Supports Wake-on: pumbg
--------------Wake-on: d
--------------Current message level: 0x00000007 (7)
--------------Link detected: yes


------------2) ifconfig eth0

eth0
Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:DF:01:B8:1B
inet addr:134.128.124.31 Bcast:134.128.124.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::2c0:dfff:fe01:b81b/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:840 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:87814 (85.7 Kb) TX bytes:460 (460.0 b)
Interrupt:10 Base address:0x4000


------------3) route
Destination.....Gateway.........Genmask.........Flags......Metric.......Ref....Use....Iface
134.128.124.0...*------------255.255.255.0.......U..........0..............0......0........eth0
link-local............*------------255.255.0.0...........U..........0..............0......0.........eth0
loopback............*------------255.0.0.0...............U..........0..............0......0..........lo

------------4) contents of /etc/resolv.conf.
nameserver 134.184.250.7
nameserver 134.184.15.13
search vub.ac.be ulb.ac.be


------------5) lspci
0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
0000:00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] (rev 01)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: 3Dfx Interactive, Inc. Voodoo Banshee (rev 03)



Thank you very much for your help, I just learned about 4 new commands :)

However, one off the topic issue, is their someway to make it post blank characters, my replacements are not only awfully time consuming, but not that clear either.

Last edited by GnaM; 12-27-2004 at 05:15 PM.
 
Old 12-28-2004, 09:50 AM   #6
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Cool, you have a banshee ...
I must tell you that you give very detailed information and If other people were providing so much info like you, this would make our lives easier. Congratulations, for this.

Now on the problem, your /etc/resolv.conf is OK. ethtool results are also OK (the speed is only 10 MB, but still not an error). I don't see problems with the interrupt sharing(IRQ). ifconfig shows correct IP settings, however seems you have ipv6 enabled in your kernel. It shouldn't be problem.
Also your route doesn't show any gateway for the default target (0.0.0.0) and I think you should have one (that's why i asked you to try route add default blabla).
If you have default gateway in Windows you should have one in Linux.

route add default gateway <windows gateway>
it may not help but won't hurt. And finally AFAIK the IP forwarding is for machines meant to be gateways (the gateway connects computers from one network to computers in other networks, and they have more than one LAN cards, or combinations of modems and lan cards to be connected to these several networks at once). since your machine is not a gateway you'd better disable IP Forwarding. I never compile IP forwarding and still have perfect internet access with the same LAN card as yours.
i don't have Suse and can't advise you on the exact configuration options.
One offtopic question: does your SuSe works fine on your machine (I mean speed)
Finally, sorry for my messy and bad formatted response.

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Old 12-28-2004, 10:07 AM   #7
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Output entails conflict ?

Hi,

From what I see, there seems to be a problem in here.....

Quote:
-----------2) ifconfig eth0

eth0
Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:C0:DF:01:B8:1B
inet addr:134.128.124.31 Bcast:134.128.124.255 Mask:255.255.255.0
inet6 addr: fe80::2c0:dfff:fe01:b81b/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:840 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:6 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0

collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:87814 (85.7 Kb) TX bytes:460 (460.0 b)
Interrupt:10 Base address:0x4000
The many errors here, what do they mean ?


Also, in my very first post, at the bottom I provided some information regarding
the boot up messages, the following in particular :

Quote:
---------BOOT UP
PCI Found IRQ10 for device 0000:00:09.0
PCI Sharing IRQ10 with device 0000:00:07.2 ---> Sharing with whom ?
could it cause a conflict ?
etho : Realtek RTL8139 at 0x8864000, 00:c0:df:01:b8:1b, IRQ 10
I was wondering if a conflict could be the source of my problems,

In the last post by iZvi, I have been consulted to run lscpi, to detect the problem.
Because I already posted all that information in my previous post,,
I just quote the relevant, potential conflicts .

Quote:
----------LSCPI
-------0000:00:07.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)----------
0000:00:07.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
-------0000:00:09.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)----------

Notice the two marked with ----------, they have the same numbers like the quote above,
----0000:00:09.0
----0000:00:07.2


So my guess from all of this data is that I might have to do with a conflict problem,
(hence the errors from above because my usb and Ethernet controller are sharing the same
IRQ 10 ???????????????????)
but how to resolve ? Am I actually talking sense here ?

Regards.
 
Old 12-28-2004, 10:20 AM   #8
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Dear iZvi,

Yes, I try to provide much output, because I am tired of windows
and want to format my HD ASAP. (Get rid of the evil).
For the moment I am in dual boot, My Linux is a Reiser partition or something.
I am very satisfied with linux, and if it wasn't for the internet problem I would
have already formatted my HD.

When I was just ready with my previous post I just saw your reply.
So I guess that my previous comments have nothing to do with the issue,

This also means that my previous post, regarding the coordinates of the quotes
(last post by iZvi should be previous) are not entirely correct, but I assume that
the attentive eye will see what I mean.

but still, I am concerned about these multiple errors.
846 errors, they must have some informative purpose right ?

And also the other questions i raised,
Why is there a need for IRQ sharing ?
And why wouldn't this cause a conflict ?


Well regarding your off the topic question,
I guess SuSe runs just fine, speed is OK i guess...
However when I want to search something it takes suspiciously much time.
The Reiser partition is only about 2 GB (Yes I really regret not to have made more space available first. Now the poison consists of 10 GB...),
which makes it strange for it to spend much time in searching a file.





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Old 12-28-2004, 10:37 AM   #9
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Default Gateway was already set in Yast

Hi,

From what iZvi deduced from all of the output I provided in an earlier post,
he seemed to have stated that everything was OK, except for the following :

Quote:
Also your route doesn't show any gateway for the default target (0.0.0.0) and I think you should have one (that's why i asked you to try route add default blabla).
If you have default gateway in Windows you should have one in Linux.

route add default gateway <windows gateway>
The strange thing is that normally I have filled in that particular missing field.
(because iZvi already pointed it out in one of his first posts and I followed his advice)

However, I used Yast to set this field, probably the command route add ....
had to be used instead of Yast ?

Regards.
 
Old 12-28-2004, 12:43 PM   #10
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Hey GnaM,
You should look more carefully on the output of ifconfig:
The number 840 applies to the first RX field, which is for the total number of RX (RX means received packets, TX means transmitted packets), RX: 840 errors:0 means you have 840 packets transmitted in total, with 0 errors. currently ifconfig on my PC shows:
RX: 871717 errors:0
TX: 25684 errors:0
and this doesn't mean I have 871717 errors .

Do not worry for the IRQ, if eth0 is up and is able to receive and transmit packets, it's probably ok with this IRQ. It shares IRQ with the built-in USB controler from the Pentium II's chipset.

Also try to configure everything from the command line this time, to avoid the GUI programs and be sure what's done and what's not.
 
Old 12-28-2004, 03:04 PM   #11
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route add default gw ..... Is doing strange.

Hi iZvi,

Thank you for the clarification regarding the mysterious errors.


After I logged in as root, the command
--------- route add default gw 134.184.124.100
gives the following error message
--------------SIOCADDRT : Network is unreachable.


I did man route to see what kind of options I had and despite
the detailed documented information I wasn't able to derive
anything beneficial from it.

Thank you very much for your advice and your precious time.

Regards.
 
Old 12-28-2004, 03:26 PM   #12
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route -nNvee provides gateway ?

Hi,

iZvi wrote earlier :

Quote:
quote:
Also your route doesn't show any gateway for the default target (0.0.0.0) and I think you should have one (that's why i asked you to try route add default blabla).
If you have default gateway in Windows you should have one in Linux.

route add default gateway <windows gateway>
Probably my question has NOTHING to do what you wanted to say,
but I really have no clue what so ever.

If you are searching for a gateway 0.0.0.0 I get it when I do route -nNvee
(though I guess you mean you are searching for 134.184.124.100 at the default 0.0.0.0 ?)
Code:
Kernel IP routing table
Destination        Gateway         Genmask  Flags Metric Ref    Use   Iface    MSS   Window irtt
134.128.124.0      0.0.0.0  255.255.255.0  U     0      0        0   eth0      0          0      0
169.254.0.0      0.0.0.0   255.255.0.0      U     0      0        0   eth0      0          0      0
127.0.0.0        0.0.0.0   255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0       lo       0          0      0
Some question regarding this though.

In column destination I see 3 IP addresses, the first one : 134.128.124.0 is not the 134.128.124.31
which it is supposed to be ?
169.254.0.0 I never gave in that value.
127.0.0.0 is just the looping interface or whatever.
Only the last value makes some sense to me, but the 2 first ?

Especially the first one, why not 134.184.124.31 ? ifconfig shows this...
 
Old 12-28-2004, 06:05 PM   #13
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OK, I the you've messed the output of route in your post, but let me explain what I can:

route shows the path to classes of adresses. the destination field explains what is the final set of destinations - it is a network and it shows the address of the network. 134.128.124.31 is called host IP, and the network has its own IP -134.128.124.0. Just like if my IP is 192.168.1.60 the address of my network is 192.168.1.0.
If my IP is 192.168.1.60 and I want to connect to IP 192.168.2.12, I must use a gateway, because 192.168.2.12 is not on my network ('cause the network address of 192.168.2.12 is 192.168.2.0 and mine is 192.168.1.0.

The destination 134.128.124.0 is common for all of the computers on yournetwork - 134.128.124.1, 134.128.124.2, 134.128.124.3 and so on). The second field tells how to find this destination - directly, or with the help of a gateway. If it should be directly, it shows *, if we use gateway it shows the address of the gateway. When you connect to a web site it has an IP, your browser asks the DNS what's the IP of the site with name <linuxquestions.org> for example and then the browser asks route how to reach the IP. If there isn't a special rule in the configuration of route for the desired IP(e.g. for 200.15.16.90, the data is sent to the so called DEFAULT route, and it should take care to find linuxquestions.org. The default route should be your gateway - a PC of your ISP, which takes care to connect your network to the rest of the internet. Also route can't find the gateway itself - it's not a magician.

To make it clean, delete any network settings and start everything from the console:

modprobe 8139too
ifconfig eth0 134.128.124.31
route add default gw 134.128.124.100

Leave /etc/resolv.conf with the correct values it already has. Then try to:

ping 134.128.124.31
ping google.com

If you can ping hosts in your network the Lan is working. if you can ping web sites your internet is ok. I've never write such a long post. Hope it will help.

Last edited by iZvi; 12-28-2004 at 06:07 PM.
 
Old 12-29-2004, 05:48 AM   #14
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LAN is working, Internet not.

Hi,

In the last post by iZvi I was instructed to do the following :
Quote:
To make it clean, delete any network settings and start everything from the console:

modprobe 8139too
ifconfig eth0 134.128.124.31
route add default gw 134.128.124.100

Leave /etc/resolv.conf with the correct values it already has. Then try to:

ping 134.128.124.31
ping google.com

If you can ping hosts in your network the Lan is working. if you can ping web sites your Internet is ok. I've never write such a long post. Hope it will help.
So inorder to delete the network settings, I went into Yast and deleted the configured card
REALTEK8139.

Then I did the 5 instructions.
I assume my LAN to be working because i got this output :
---------------------------------OUTPUT PING 134.184.124.31
PHP Code:

PING 134.128.124.31 
(134.128.124.3156(84bytes of data.
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.081 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=2 ttl=64 time=0.086 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=3 ttl=64 time=0.085 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.086 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=5 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=6 ttl=64 time=0.067 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=7 ttl=64 time=0.052 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=8 ttl=64 time=0.070 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=9 ttl=64 time=0.077 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=10 ttl=64 time=0.068 ms
64 bytes from 134.128.124.31
icmp_seq=11 ttl=64 time=0.063 ms

--- 134.128.124.31 ping statistics ---
11 packets transmitted11 received0packet losstime 9999ms
rtt min
/avg/max/mdev 0.052/0.073/0.086/0.011 ms 
---------------------------------OUTPUT PING www. google.com
But I assume my internet NOT to be working because I got this output :
PHP Code:
pingunknown host www google com 
When I did route, ifconfig etc I got some interesting results though.
But for sake of clarification, I will post them in another post, following this one directly.

Regards.
 
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Output of route, ethtool, ifconfig and lspci.

Hi

As I promised in my last post, here is the output of
--------------------------- ROUTE
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Kernel IP routing table
Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    
Use Iface
134.128.0.0     
*               255.255.0.0     U     0      0        0 eth0
loopback        
*               255.0.0.0       U     0      0        0 lo
default         134.128.124.100 0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0 
--------------------------- ethtool
PHP Code:
Settings for eth0:
    
Supported ports: [ TP MII ]
    
Supported link modes:   10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 
                            100baseT
/Half 100baseT/Full 
    Supports auto
-negotiationYes
    Advertised link modes
:  10baseT/Half 10baseT/Full 
                            100baseT
/Half 100baseT/Full 
    Advertised auto
-negotiationYes
    Speed
10Mb/s
    Duplex
Half
    Port
MII
    PHYAD
32
    Transceiver
internal
    Auto
-negotiationon
    Supports Wake
-onpumbg
    Wake
-ond
    Current message level
0x00000007 (7)
    
Link detectedyes 
--------------------------- ifconfig
PHP Code:
eth0      Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:C0:DF:01:B8:1B  
          inet addr
:134.128.124.31  Bcast:134.128.255.255  Mask:255.255.0.0
          inet6 addr
fe80::2c0:dfff:fe01:b81b/64 Scope:Link
          UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU
:1500  Metric:1
          RX packets
:2722 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets
:205 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions
:0 txqueuelen:1000 
          RX bytes
:289801 (283.0 Kb)  TX bytes:12526 (12.2 Kb)
          
Interrupt:10 Base address:0x4000 

lo        Link encap
:Local Loopback  
          inet addr
:127.0.0.1  Mask:255.0.0.0
          inet6 addr
: ::1/128 Scope:Host
          UP LOOPBACK RUNNING  MTU
:16436  Metric:1
          RX packets
:492 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
          TX packets
:492 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
          collisions
:0 txqueuelen:
          RX bytes
:38164 (37.2 Kb)  TX bytes:38164 (37.2 Kb
--------------------------- lspci
PHP Code:
0000:00:00.0 Host bridgeIntel Corp440BX/ZX/DX 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 PCI bridgeIntel Corp440BX/ZX/DX 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
0000:00:07.0 ISA bridgeIntel Corp82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
0000:00:07.2 USB ControllerIntel Corp82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
0000:00:07.3 BridgeIntel Corp82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
0000:00:09.0 Ethernet controllerRealtek Semiconductor Co., LtdRTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controllerEnsoniq ES1370 [AudioPCI] (rev 01)
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller3Dfx InteractiveIncVoodoo Banshee (rev 03
I think only the route to be interesting because now it gives in it's last line the correct line,
sought after by iZvi. The other ones I just posted to be ahead of the question to post their
results :) .

However, another problem I encounter now is that when I reboot I lose my settings.
The reboot gives some output like eth0 not configured or something and when I do
route I get only the first line.
--------------------------- ROUTE
PHP Code:
Kernel IP routing table 
So I have to configure all again at reboot...
I wanted to make a script, because lots of typing work,
but when I wanted to execute the script I got permission denied(even though I am root)
Is there a way to save the settings ?
 
  


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