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Old 09-06-2008, 10:47 PM   #1
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Problem installing network adaptor with OpenSuse 11.0


Hello I am a newbie to Opensuse and linux in general. I recently installed opensuse 11.0. It seems to work fine except it didn't install my network card. I tried to go to the YaST program and then look under network devices. When I click on the "Network Card" icon it tries to find the network card, but can't. Someone I work with said I should try to install it manually, by selecting ethernet and eth0 (he wasn't really specific). I tried some different variations and nothing seemed to work, but I just don't have a clue! At the end it still said "Ethernet Network Card (not connected), so I don't think it worked.

The other problem is that I really don't know what network adapter I have (windows xp always knew what it was before). I bought the comptuer from someone who customized the computer, so it is not some facotry dell computer or something. I looked at the motherboard and from what I can tell it is a "MS-6570" and I think it has a "Chipset integrated 10/100 Base-T Ethernet/Fast Ethernet" card from my internet search.

I would really like if someone could give me some help installing my network card, so I can start using the internet on that computer. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
Old 09-07-2008, 02:59 AM   #2
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Are the details here http://hardware4linux.info/component/14757/
those of your card? If so, it seems other people have had success with it, mainly 'straight of the box' which is both good and bad news. Its good that other people have got it to work, its bad that its unclear why it hasn't worked for you.

When you go into yast, can you give more details about what you do and what happens?
 
Old 09-07-2008, 07:50 AM   #3
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Thanks salasi.

I tend to think that since it didn't work "strait out of the box" it is bad news for me...

I looked at that link and I believe that is the correct hardware, but like I said before I am not completely sure.

When I go into yast I look in the network settings. In the Ethernet Network Card it has the following info:

Ethernet Network Card (No hwinfo)
.Device Name: eth0
.Started automatically at boot
.IP address assigned using DHCP

Is there anything I can do in the network card setup that will provide any valuable information? Thanks.
 
Old 09-07-2008, 08:19 AM   #4
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Try this command form a terminal:

sudo ifconfig eth0

This should tell you what Suse thinks the card is.

Good Luck!

John
 
Old 09-07-2008, 09:14 AM   #5
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Thanks John.

I went into a terminal and signed is a a super user (root) and typed the following command "ifconfig eth0". It outputed "eth0: error fetching interface information: Device not found".

I am not sure if I put the right setting into the yast program when I tried to install the network card. It also seemed that it couldn't "automatically" detect my network card. Then I tried to just "add" one. I selected "Start automatically at boot", and "IP address assigned using DHCP". I really don't what I am doing when I change those settings though...

Kevin
 
Old 09-07-2008, 09:24 AM   #6
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Open up your terminal once more and run
lspci
If you don't see any line that refers to your NIC, than that is not very good news. It means that the NIC is not supported (yet). One thing that may help is run pciicds from the terminal (as root). That command will download updated pci definitions. If you are lucky, your NIC may recently have been added.
 
Old 09-07-2008, 10:16 AM   #7
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Thanks. Here is the output from the command you mentioned. This computer is several years old, so it's not like it is too new to be supported yet, right?


linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IGP2 (rev c1)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev c1)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev c1)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev c1)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev c1)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev c1)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP2A ISA bridge (rev a3)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP2A SMBus (rev a1)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2A USB Controller (rev a1)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2A USB Controller (rev a1)
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2A USB Controller (rev a2)
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP2A PCI Bridge (rev a3)
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP2A IDE (rev a3)
00:0b.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev c1)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15)
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # pciicds
bash: pciicds: command not found
 
Old 09-07-2008, 11:04 AM   #8
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No, I'm afraid I don't see any NIC in there. The system being a few years old makes it rather unlikely that a new ID has been added only recently.

It's not clear to me why it doesn't find pciids - it should have thought that it would have been installed with the base system. But you didn't run it as root I see? It may be worthwhile giving another spin but I'm sceptical to be honest. I guess your best option if you want to continue with Suse is to get a pci NIC. Maybe you can find a used one but if you don't, it is not expensive to get a new one (I recently installed a gigabit ASUS NX1101, it cost me about 12 euros). Just make sure you get one that is supported.

Last edited by jay73; 09-07-2008 at 11:05 AM.
 
Old 09-07-2008, 11:23 AM   #9
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I have dollars here in the states, so it will take a lot more than 12 to get a network card here

I thought I tried the pciicds command under root? I typed su, put my password in, and it turned red. Then I put the command in. I installed OpenSuse with the LiveCD and not the DVD, would that matter?

The main question I have is how to know if I purchase a PCI NIC if it is supported? Is their an easy way to tell?

Thanks again.

Kevin
 
Old 09-07-2008, 12:24 PM   #10
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You'll find that prices vary quite a bit. Some cost 5 dollars and other ones will cost a hundred times that much. You could check an online store to get at least some idea which are good. Like: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...nd&Order=PRICE
Unless you are going to use that NIC in a local network and you want to share files at speeds over 12MB/s, a 100Mbps card will do. Bear in mind that getting gigabit is useless unless gigabit is supported by your network cables and router/switch, too.

Now the age old question: which ones are properly supported? These should work out of the box: http://en.opensuse.org/HCL/Network_Adapters_(Wired).
Other ones may work but only if the vendor provides a driver on their site. Bear in mind that the availability of such a driver can be pretty misleading. Quite often vendors do not bother keeping up with the kernel, which means that it is up to you to fix the pieces whenever a new kernel is released.
 
Old 09-07-2008, 06:46 PM   #11
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O.k I gave up on that network adaptor. It worked before with Windows XP, so I don't think it is broken but... I purchased and inserted a ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 pci card into my computer. I still can't go onto the internet, but at least I can "see" the network card I pasted some outputs that were discussed before below. From what I could find on the internet I needed to use the "tulip" driver, so I did "modprobe tulip".

I also went into yast and it looks like it saw it as well. I took some screenshots from it, but I don't see anywhere to insert them in the thread? The main network settings page says "NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100
MAC: ...

.Device Name: eth0
.Started automatcally at boot
.IP address assigned using DHCP

When I went into edit it under the module name it says tulip. After it was done I clicked Finsh, and got an error that says "Cannot access installation media
(Medium 1)
Check whether the server is accessible. The details say "Download (curl) error for 'http://download.opensuse.org/distibution/11.0/repo/n
Error code:
Error message: Coudn't resolve host 'download.opensuse.org'. I don't know if this info helps anyone, but it doesn't mean much to me. Thanks again for any help.




linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IGP2 (rev c1)
00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev c1)
00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev c1)
00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev c1)
00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev c1)
00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev c1)
00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP2A ISA bridge (rev a3)
00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation MCP2A SMBus (rev a1)
00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2A USB Controller (rev a1)
00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2A USB Controller (rev a1)
00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2A USB Controller (rev a2)
00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation MCP2S AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a1)
00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation MCP2A PCI Bridge (rev a3)
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation MCP2A IDE (rev a3)
00:0b.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Serial ATA Controller (rev a3)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev c1)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15)
02:07.0 Ethernet controller: ADMtek NC100 Network Everywhere Fast Ethernet 10/100 (rev 11)
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # lspci -n
00:00.0 0600: 10de:01e0 (rev c1)
00:00.1 0500: 10de:01eb (rev c1)
00:00.2 0500: 10de:01ee (rev c1)
00:00.3 0500: 10de:01ed (rev c1)
00:00.4 0500: 10de:01ec (rev c1)
00:00.5 0500: 10de:01ef (rev c1)
00:01.0 0601: 10de:0080 (rev a3)
00:01.1 0c05: 10de:0084 (rev a1)
00:02.0 0c03: 10de:0087 (rev a1)
00:02.1 0c03: 10de:0087 (rev a1)
00:02.2 0c03: 10de:0088 (rev a2)
00:06.0 0401: 10de:008a (rev a1)
00:08.0 0604: 10de:008b (rev a3)
00:09.0 0101: 10de:0085 (rev a3)
00:0b.0 0101: 10de:008e (rev a3)
00:1e.0 0604: 10de:01e8 (rev c1)
01:00.0 0300: 10de:002c (rev 15)
02:07.0 0200: 1317:0985 (rev 11)
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # pciicds
bash: pciicds: command not found
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # ifconfig eth0
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:70:15:AB:2E
inet6 addr: fe80::21a:70ff:fe15:ab2e/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:698 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:28 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:48307 (47.1 Kb) TX bytes:6408 (6.2 Kb)
Interrupt:19 Base address:0x9000

linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # lsusb
bash: lsusb: command not found
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # lsusb
bash: lsusb: command not found
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1A:70:15:AB:2E
inet6 addr: fe80::21a:70ff:fe15:ab2e/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:735 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:28 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:50527 (49.3 Kb) TX bytes:6408 (6.2 Kb)
Interrupt:19 Base address:0x9000

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:266 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:266 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:20740 (20.2 Kb) TX bytes:20740 (20.2 Kb)

linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # lsmod
Module Size Used by
iptable_filter 7552 0
ip_tables 17936 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 21380 1 ip_tables
joydev 15936 0
ipv6 269160 14
af_packet 26368 0
binfmt_misc 15752 1
snd_pcm_oss 51968 0
snd_mixer_oss 21120 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq 61376 0
snd_seq_device 12812 1 snd_seq
fuse 54044 1
loop 23044 0
dm_mod 66388 0
ppdev 13060 0
parport_pc 42428 0
parport 40660 2 ppdev,parport_pc
rtc_cmos 14752 0
rtc_core 24860 1 rtc_cmos
rtc_lib 7040 1 rtc_core
tulip 55292 0
ide_pci_generic 8196 0 [permanent]
ide_core 118560 1 ide_pci_generic
snd_intel8x0 38172 3
snd_ac97_codec 108580 1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus 6016 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 87812 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 28424 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
button 13072 0
snd 67256 14 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 11976 1 snd
i2c_nforce2 10880 0
snd_page_alloc 14984 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
sata_nv 30348 0
i2c_core 28820 1 i2c_nforce2
ata_generic 12036 0
shpchp 37908 0
sr_mod 21032 0
nvidia_agp 12700 1
pata_acpi 11264 0
pci_hotplug 33828 1 shpchp
cdrom 38300 1 sr_mod
agpgart 38580 1 nvidia_agp
sg 39732 0
sd_mod 32920 4
ehci_hcd 39436 0
ohci_hcd 27396 0
usbcore 152012 3 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
edd 14152 0
pata_amd 17796 3
libata 163804 4 sata_nv,ata_generic,pata_acpi,pata_amd
scsi_mod 156020 4 sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,libata
dock 15248 1 libata
ext3 143496 2
mbcache 13060 1 ext3
jbd 61088 1 ext3
fan 10372 0
thermal 27164 0
processor 53552 1 thermal
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # modprobe tulip
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # lsmod
Module Size Used by
iptable_filter 7552 0
ip_tables 17936 1 iptable_filter
x_tables 21380 1 ip_tables
joydev 15936 0
ipv6 269160 14
af_packet 26368 0
binfmt_misc 15752 1
snd_pcm_oss 51968 0
snd_mixer_oss 21120 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq 61376 0
snd_seq_device 12812 1 snd_seq
fuse 54044 1
loop 23044 0
dm_mod 66388 0
ppdev 13060 0
parport_pc 42428 0
parport 40660 2 ppdev,parport_pc
rtc_cmos 14752 0
rtc_core 24860 1 rtc_cmos
rtc_lib 7040 1 rtc_core
tulip 55292 0
ide_pci_generic 8196 0 [permanent]
ide_core 118560 1 ide_pci_generic
snd_intel8x0 38172 3
snd_ac97_codec 108580 1 snd_intel8x0
ac97_bus 6016 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 87812 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 28424 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
button 13072 0
snd 67256 14 snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 11976 1 snd
i2c_nforce2 10880 0
snd_page_alloc 14984 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
sata_nv 30348 0
i2c_core 28820 1 i2c_nforce2
ata_generic 12036 0
shpchp 37908 0
sr_mod 21032 0
nvidia_agp 12700 1
pata_acpi 11264 0
pci_hotplug 33828 1 shpchp
cdrom 38300 1 sr_mod
agpgart 38580 1 nvidia_agp
sg 39732 0
sd_mod 32920 4
ehci_hcd 39436 0
ohci_hcd 27396 0
usbcore 152012 3 ehci_hcd,ohci_hcd
edd 14152 0
pata_amd 17796 3
libata 163804 4 sata_nv,ata_generic,pata_acpi,pata_amd
scsi_mod 156020 4 sr_mod,sg,sd_mod,libata
dock 15248 1 libata
ext3 143496 2
mbcache 13060 1 ext3
jbd 61088 1 ext3
fan 10372 0
thermal 27164 0
processor 53552 1 thermal
 
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The driver is supported so you should be alright. Obviously, the driver is loaded but Suse doesn't seem capable of resolving the IP address, which is suggested by:

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:266 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:266 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:20740 (20.2 Kb) TX bytes:20740 (20.2 Kb)

There should be a second block like that for eth0 but there isn't.

As a rule, this is a consequence of incorrect/missing nameserver information. DHCP should find that out automatically but it isn't for some reason.

Have you got Suse installed? If so, can you post the output of cat /etc/resolv.conf and cat /etc/hosts?

Would it be possible that you use a static (=fixed) IP address? Static is incompatible with DHCP and it requires to you explicitly feed it the network information, including IP address, network mask and nameserver. I recently ran into the same issue, by the way. I had forgotten that Ihad made my router hand out static addresses.
 
Old 09-07-2008, 08:45 PM   #13
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Thanks. I do have Suse 11.0 installed and here is the output from those two commands. I am not sure if I have a static IP address, but I don't think so? I have a local internet provider at my home, and I think they always give you a different one each time. I could try to find the number on the laptop that I am using to post to this thread, it is using XP. Do you know how I can find out the IP address from there?


kbaker@linux-xlk9:~> su
Password:
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # cat /etc/resolv.conf
### BEGIN INFO
#
#
### END INFO
#
search site
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # cat /etc/hosts
#
# hosts This file describes a number of hostname-to-address
# mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem. It is mostly
# used at boot time, when no name servers are running.
# On small systems, this file can be used instead of a
# "named" name server.
# Syntax:
#
# IP-Address Full-Qualified-Hostname Short-Hostname
#

127.0.0.1 localhost

# special IPv6 addresses
::1 localhost ipv6-localhost ipv6-loopback

fe00::0 ipv6-localnet

ff00::0 ipv6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ipv6-allnodes
ff02::2 ipv6-allrouters
ff02::3 ipv6-allhosts

127.0.0.2 linux-xlk9.site linux-xlk9
 
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Quote:
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # cat /etc/resolv.conf
### BEGIN INFO
#
#
### END INFO
#
search site
linux-xlk9:/home/kbaker # cat /etc/hosts
#
# hosts This file describes a number of hostname-to-address
# mappings for the TCP/IP subsystem. It is mostly
# used at boot time, when no name servers are running.
# On small systems, this file can be used instead of a
# "named" name server.
# Syntax:
#
# IP-Address Full-Qualified-Hostname Short-Hostname
#
Contrast this with the resolv.conf on the computer I am currently using:
Quote:
domain Arcturus.net
search Arcturus.net telenet.be
nameserver 195.130.130.133
nameserver 195.130.130.5
nameserver 195.130.129.165
Clearly, the nameserver information is missing altogether. Without that sort of information, a system can't look up any IP information.

Just because your ISP uses DHCP does not mean that DHCP is what you actually get. A router, for example, may translate the dynamic address to static ones. So the fundamental question is: are you connected directly?

Yes, looking at how things are configured in XP may help. Unfortunately, my knowledge of XP is getting dusty very fast. I guess the easiest way is typing cmd into the run box on the menu and then enter ipconfig into the dos style box.
 
Old 09-07-2008, 08:58 PM   #15
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I found out what the IP address, Subnet mask, and Default Gateway numbers are from my laptop that uses XP. Are these the number that you mentioned before (e.g. IP address, network mask and nameserver)? How can I tell if it is a static IP address though? Thanks.
 
  


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