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Old 03-05-2004, 10:33 AM   #16
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The ISP is Mile High Online in Denver (mho.net). I have tried the other combinations for authentication (CHAP, PAP/CHAP, etc.) too with no luck that way either. I wasn't real convinced when he PAP because he said "I think it's PAP". I'm guessing maybe he was confusing PAP with PPP and has probably never had anyone ask about using Linux. I was prowling around on their website and I think I also saw something about PAP mentioned in one of their helps about setting up a MAC. I'm not really too up to speed when it comes to networking issues. Thanks!
 
Old 03-05-2004, 10:53 AM   #17
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Choose terminal-based login instead of pap/chap/etc. Then try to connect. You will have to type the username/password yourself. Post what happens here.
 
Old 03-05-2004, 11:42 AM   #18
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That's what I tried yesterday after your suggestion. Basically I typed everything into the terminal just as the log showed was done automatically (modem setup and dial stuff). The last item that came back was the CONNECT.... statement. After that I couldn't type anything else, the message at the bottom of the window displayed pppd starting and then it finally timed out. Was that what you meant to try? I never received a request for signon/password information which seemed strange and is why I was guessing that it was waiting for more from my machine. I guess I didn't realize that the CONNECT was actually coming from the modem rather than the ISP.
 
Old 03-07-2004, 02:22 PM   #19
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Well . . . two days later and I am still unable to connect to the internet via dialup with KPPP. I even went drastic and reinstalled the whole system but things are still the same. The connection continues to time out while starting pppd and the message that keeps occurring over and over in the log is:

Mar 7 11:43:15 localhost modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module ppp0
Mar 7 11:43:15 localhost last message repeated 3 times

Does anyone know what this means? Is the ppp0 module really missing or is it an authority thing. As best as I can tell with my extremely limited Linux experience all the authorities seem OK. Since I'm doing all this as root I wouldn't think that there would be an authority issue. It would seem that this should be a relatively easy process to get going.

Is there another way to dialup other than KPPP that I could try? Maybe something is messed up with KPPP.

Any help anyone can provide would be greatly appreciated!
 
Old 03-07-2004, 03:21 PM   #20
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I use debian and the command line procedure to setup a ppp connection is pppconfig (/usr/sbin/pppconfig?) This takes you through the various things you need to dial out. When completed you can connect to the isp using pon and disconnect with poff. Don't forget to put the DNS #'s in /etc/resolv.conf. With regard to kppp have you gone through the setup carefully (setup button) using new connection. I don't think that ppp0 error is really relevant as it is saying later in the log that its been associated with /dev/ttyS0. Normally you'll find a ppp log. Mine exists in /var/log/ppp-connect-errors.
 
Old 03-08-2004, 10:35 AM   #21
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I could not find a pppconfig on my system although it may be there someplace.

I'm wondering if there may be a problem with ppp at a lower level than inside of KPPP. Is there a place where I could get another (newer or older) version of ppp to install and try?
 
Old 03-08-2004, 02:54 PM   #22
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You have yet to find out whether you ISP is responding. Try to connect manually, and see what response you get from them. KPPP lets customize what it does to log in. The ppp will not work if you don't log in to your ISP properly. You can also dial manually in Windows with Hyper-Terminal.
 
Old 03-09-2004, 10:26 AM   #23
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I did what you (aaa) suggested last Friday and selected the terminal based signin approach. It did the initial dialing and then opened the terminal window. Unfortunately the window wouldn't let me type anything even though I tried. The window seemed locked. Is there a way to get it to allow entry? What I had planned to enter was userid/passwork as suggested.

Any idea of what to try next? Is there a chance that there is something else that I need to set up before trying again. My thinking was that KPPP would work in a similar way that Dialup Networking does in Windows and set up anything behind the scenes that needs to be done. Is this a flawed assumption and actually there is more, maybe even much more that I need to do? In essence I jumped right to KPPP immediately after Linux loaded for the first time.

I did some searching on the web and haven't seen anything that has helped at all. One idea I saw was to run "ifconfig ppp0" to see how the ppp0 interface was setup but it returned a message saying that there was no ppp0 interface.

Thanks!
 
Old 03-10-2004, 03:08 PM   #24
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Until you get the 'CONNECT', from the modem, you can only type modem commands. Once connected, you can type to your ISP. Your ISP should ask for your username, then you type it. Typing before it asks probably will result in it not getting the name. If the ISP doesn't appear to respond, try pressing enter after the modem connects to see if that makes it respond.

KPPP is supposed to work right away. The only 'behind-the-scenes' thing Windows does that KPPP doesn't is automatically determining what authentication is need, and the options for this are in the combobox with PAP, CHAP/PAP, terminal-based... etc.

I doubt the problem is with PPP, I think it is with your ISP not responding. Try to find out how Windows does it. Log the connection and examine the logs in Windows. There is a checkbox for that somewhere in Dial-up Networking. Or maybe you can get a Windows dialing program that shows you what Windows is doing.
 
Old 05-17-2004, 07:09 PM   #25
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Sound like the same problem I'm having with Red Hat 9... It tries
to connect, times out, and log says can't find ppp0... and this is a
modem and ISP that worked fine with Red Hat 8...I'm stumped!
Good luck, and let me know if you have any luck!

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...hreadid=182073
 
Old 05-18-2004, 07:58 AM   #26
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It turns out that the problem seemed to be with the serial port that I connected the external modem to. This is an HP machine with an internal modem (Winmodem I assume) and it appears to be tied with the same port that I was connecting the external modem to. I knew that the internal was working with Windows 98 so I decided to reinstall 98 and try the serial port and discovered that the external didn't work there either. Then I discovered a second serial port on the front of the machine behind a little door. I tried the external there and it worked fine so I reinstalled Fedora and it worked there as well. Pretty strange. It does appear that your messages are similar in regard to being unable to locate ppp0 but I'm not sure that the solution would be the same since your modem did work previously. Good luck but I'm not sure this will be much help to you.
 
  


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