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Old 05-17-2011, 09:13 PM   #1
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PLZ Fix the CAPS LOCK response time glitch in Linux Distros!


I have been investigating on this issue for a while now and I see there are quite a few others who experience this problem. Its a problem with the transition from Lower Case to Upper Case letters. For example if you type a few sentences and use "CAPS LOCK" instead of "SHIFT", your sentence will look like this... HOw are you? JOhn is fine.

Notice the first 2 letters when using caps lock instead of shift. For fast typers like myself, its very frustrating. Windows does not have this problem.

I love linux very much if this problem can get fixed, I will likely permanently switch to linux.


Keep up the good work guys
 
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Old 05-17-2011, 09:40 PM   #2
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Maybe it's because I'm a trained touch typist from back when typing was typing, before it got dumbed down to "keyboarding" (I hate that coinage!), but I am confused.

SHIFT is for typing one uppercase character (hold down SHIFT with one hand hit key with the other--that's why there are two SHIFT keys) and CAPS LOCK is for typing multiple uppercase characters (toggle CAPS LOCK on, type characters, toggle CAPS LOCK off--that's why there is only one CAPS LOCK key).

Using CAPS LOCK in lieu of SHIFT to type single characters actually introduces unnecessary keystrokes to turn CAPS LOCK off.
 
Old 05-17-2011, 11:41 PM   #3
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You might want to tell us which distribution, window manager and software you're using (by "software", I mean, where are you typing this?). Also, since this isn't a problem related to LQ, I've reported it for moving to one of the main Linux forums.
 
Old 05-17-2011, 11:45 PM   #4
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Hello,

I'm sorry, but your "issue" doesn't sound like an issue at all. It seems like you think that the caps lock is supposed to behave the same way as the shift key, but in all honesty, it's not, just like Frank said.

Cheers,

Josh
 
Old 05-18-2011, 04:49 PM   #5
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... but I am confused. ...
Me too. -- Why are you using the Caps Lock at all? frankbell, explains its correct use quite nicely. I there any chance we are mis-understanding your explanation of your problem?

When I manage to produce a mistake like this:
Quote:
HOw are you? JOhn is fine.
it has nothing to w/ the Caps Lock, but rather my failure to release a Shift key.

Another possibility which frankbell doesn't mention is modern, cheap, light weight, shoddily built, keyboards.
I can't get the one I really want at all, let alone in a USB or wireless ver.
 
Old 05-18-2011, 04:56 PM   #6
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Hmm, SOOOooooOOooooOOOOoooo this doesnt seem to TO BE a problem for me in ubuntu 10.04 all of the caps'd letters i typed, i intended to do so with the caps key. Do you maybe have some sort of sticky key function on?
 
Old 05-18-2011, 09:22 PM   #7
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Regardless of what you may "think" is a problem or not, its a personal suggestion. Some strange people like myself DO use caps lock instead of shift. In windows its fine. So why shouldn't it be implemented in linux? Is it difficult to program linux to do this? It would only make matters better, so why not do it? Sure its not a problem for most because they are "shift" users. Again this forum is a "suggestion". So there is one right here.
 
Old 05-18-2011, 09:28 PM   #8
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The LQ Suggestions forum is a forum to suggest things regarding LQ. Therefore your thread was moved to Linux-Newbie.
 
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Old 05-19-2011, 12:01 AM   #9
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Regardless of what you may "think" is a problem or not, its a personal suggestion. Some strange people like myself DO use caps lock instead of shift. In windows its fine. So why shouldn't it be implemented in linux? Is it difficult to program linux to do this? It would only make matters better, so why not do it? Sure its not a problem for most because they are "shift" users. Again this forum is a "suggestion". So there is one right here.
I don't think anyone really understands what you mean, do you have CAPS LOCK on all of the time, and when you want to type a lowercase letter, you hold shift? That makes things a little bit cumbersome, don't you think? Is it not more efficient to press shift when you need a lowercase letter, than when you need and uppercase letter? For example, I would have been holding shift for quite a while now...
 
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Old 05-20-2011, 05:23 AM   #10
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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by cedricsm View Post
    I have been investigating on this issue for a while now and I see there are quite a few others who experience this problem.
    Who are these others? -- I have never heard before of anyone having this problem.

  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by cedricsm View Post
    Regardless of what you may "think" is a problem or not, its a personal suggestion.
    "personal suggestion" -- Do you really mean "personal preference"?

  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by cedricsm View Post
    Some strange people like myself DO use caps lock instead of shift. In windows its fine. So why shouldn't it be implemented in linux? Is it difficult to program linux to do this? It would only make matters better, so why not do it?
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by cedricsm View Post
    Windows does not have this problem.

    I love linux very much if this problem can get fixed, I will likely permanently switch to linux.
    What makes you think this isn't implemented in Linux? -- I just typed "Linux" using the Caps Lock, not the Shift key. Slower, but it works. Maybe I still don't understand your problem; especially since I don't experience any difference in typing on the 2 OSes.

  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by cedricsm View Post
    Sure its not a problem for most because they are "shift" users.
    Especially those of us who were taught touch typing. We think we use the keyboard as it was designed to be used. The only advantage I see to your method is that there is no need to co-ordinate the press-&-hold of the Shift key w/ the typing of the letter key. While not common, there are legitimate reasons for doing things this way, that's why the "Sticky Key" function is available.

  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by cedricsm View Post
    Again this forum is a "suggestion". So there is one right here.
    I don't understand these 2 sentences.

  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by cedricsm View Post
    For fast typers like myself, its very frustrating.
    I am surprised that you that you don't use the Shift key, as that would make you even faster. Your choice/preference is strange to the rest of us, because it seems to be 2 times as much work.

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Old 05-25-2011, 08:11 AM   #11
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"What makes you think this isn't implemented in Linux? -- I just typed "Linux" using the Caps Lock, not the Shift key. Slower, but it works. Maybe I still don't understand your problem; especially since I don't experience any difference in typing on the 2 OSes."


Ahh yes, so you do see it. Because you just said you had to type slower. But for fast typers this is a nightmare. It just takes way to long. Also just to clear up, I am not trying to start a ruckus here or anything. The communities are very helpful and I am thankful. And yes I do mean its a "pesonal suggestion" or tweak. If it can be possible its great. If not, then forget it. ;-)
 
Old 05-25-2011, 08:18 AM   #12
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I still don't understand what you want. Do you have Caps Lock on all the time, as astromime asked in post 9?
 
Old 05-25-2011, 09:46 AM   #13
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I think I see what he's getting at.

Take one finger and place it above caps lock, take another and place it above the p key, then hit the keys alternately as fast as you can (i.e. caps, p, caps, p)
This is what happened for me when I did it in an xterm (and also xemacs)
PpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPpPPPPPpPpPpPpPpPpPPPPPpPpPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPpPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPpP

For some reason caps lock seems to stick on at some points. From my repeated tests is seems to always stick on but never stick off, but I use a cheap and nasty wireless keyboard with a usb attached receiver so the problem could be being introduced in a number of place. It might just be mechanical. I have to be hitting the keys ridiculously fast to see this effect though, I doubt I'd ever see it during normal use.

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Old 05-25-2011, 09:56 AM   #14
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Ooops! Tried doing that, then I remembered I'm using my caps lock as the compose key.
 
Old 05-25-2011, 08:36 PM   #15
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No I dont have caps lock on all the time. Its only on when I want there to be a capital letter. At the beginning of a sentence. Then when I turn in off and continue typing(fast), this is what happens..... SEe it?
 
  


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