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xxrevenge.

03-08-2012 06:51 PM

Please help! How can I get an iPod Touch 4g to work!!!!!!!!

Hey, I have an iPod touch 4g and it gets recognized only as a camera, it doesn't work on either Amarok or Rythmbox!!! Though it's recognized when I type the command lsusb as Bus 001 Device 003: ID 05ac:129e Apple, Inc. iPod Touch 4.Gen. Any help? I really need to use my iPod to sync songs and such... By the way I am using OpenSUSE 12.1 kde 64-bit. Thanks in advance :)

frankbell

03-08-2012 08:25 PM

This is one reason I don't use Apple. Their darned wall orchard.

This article might help:

http://www.viviendolinux.com/en/inst...#axzz1oaC3r1qN

I have no way of testing it.

Knightron

03-08-2012 08:29 PM

Gday mate, i don't think you can sync with ipods (not owning an ipod my self, someone please correct me if i'm wrong) I have two suggestions.
1) try Clementine, and see if it's 'devices' function can.
2) This may not be the case, but when i used to own an ipod five years back, the songs were located in a hidden folder, on the device. If this is still the case, you may be able to manually put your songs on it, the same way you'd put them on a usb drive.

TKH	03-09-2012 04:54 AM

Or, a desperate solution:
Install wine, and install iTunes for Windows

ArfaSmif

03-09-2012 05:47 AM

Is it getting mounted under "/home/username/.gvfs/" ? Have a look there.

I know "banshee" is supposed to work ok with an iPod touch 4G (if you are happy to install the mono dependency and the rest!)

xxrevenge.

03-09-2012 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArfaSmif (Post 4622609)

Is it getting mounted under "/home/username/.gvfs/" ? Have a look there.

I know "banshee" is supposed to work ok with an iPod touch 4G (if you are happy to install the mono dependency and the rest!)

Hmm.....apparently there's no such thing as /home/username/.gvfs/ in my computer...

xxrevenge.

03-09-2012 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightron (Post 4622361)

OMG it did recognize it but as an ithing or something, but soon after I click it the window closes itself...did it again and it tells me that it couldn't find an iPod database on /tmp/qt_temp.u24402.

PracticingLuddite

03-09-2012 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbell (Post 4622359)

This is one reason I don't use Apple. Their darned wall orchard.

This article might help:

http://www.viviendolinux.com/en/inst...#axzz1oaC3r1qN

I have no way of testing this.

I completely agree with your opinion on Apple, and avoid them. And I'm wondering why the OP is using Linux on Apple to get the ipod and ipad to synch? Why not use the native apple apps? Isn't that what's supposed to be so great about apple?
Based on xxrevenge's (the original poster) answer below, you can disregard this comment.

xxrevenge.

03-09-2012 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PracticingLuddite (Post 4622860)

I'm not using Linux on apple. I'm using Linux on a former Windows PC.... I just have an iPod that I had before switching to Linux, which I love btw :) And I want to try and make my iPod work...

TroN-0074

03-09-2012 02:06 PM

Do you have access to Banshee? did you try GTkpod? did you already do a linux Ipod managers google search? Have look in to RockBox software?.

xxrevenge.

03-09-2012 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroN-0074 (Post 4622957)

Do you have access to Banshee? did you try GTkpod? did you already do a linux Ipod managers google search? Have look in to RockBox software?.

Tried Banshee...somehow it doesn't want to open, GTKpod doesn't recognize my ipod at all....I have tried a couple of programs (Amarok, Rythmbox, Clementine, Banshee, Gtkpod...) and none of them really work for me XP

John VV

03-09-2012 06:06 PM

I am not sure about the new ipods
i have a very old nano ( gift )
GTKpod works just fine ( fat formatted nano )

did you activate this ipod on a Mac ? or on a Winfows computer

if a mac then the ipod is formatted as HFS+
if on windows it is fat32

xxrevenge.

03-09-2012 06:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John VV (Post 4623048)

Yeah, it was formatted on Windows... :/

TroN-0074

03-09-2012 08:08 PM

Even though Linux is great because its openness and workability for the user case like this makes me keep a blue box just for these close source devices. In your case your iPod in my case is my TV that wont display at the right resolution when plug my OpenSuSE laptop to it. It will be crisp display when I plug my W7 laptop, I hate it.

Perhaps if you want to keep using your iPod you will have to wait until somebody develop the right software for you device or create a partition in your computer and install some cheap form of 3rd world OS just to manage your iPod.

Good luck to you.

frankbell

03-09-2012 08:28 PM

I have heard on various Linux podcasts that later iPod firmware rebels when one attempts to mount it without using some kind of iJunk.

iTunes in a Windows VM might be the best option, but research what type of access to USB the virtualizer provides first. I believe, for example, that the open source VirtualBox does not allow USB access.

ArfaSmif

03-10-2012 12:27 AM

I'm struggling with the same thing myself at the moment. The only way I've got it to work is to use a virtual WinXP in Virtualbox and run itunes in that. It is a complete PITA, very slow, very unforgiving, but it does eventually work.

xxrevenge.

03-10-2012 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArfaSmif (Post 4623194)

For me, I installed Oracle VirtualBox and it just doesn't open.....:/

Knightron

03-10-2012 05:37 PM

Do you mean you've tried installing virtualbox, and that it won't open? We can help you with that too. First you need to provide some details. First thing that comes to mind; How did you install it?

TroN-0074

03-10-2012 06:03 PM

I also tried virtualbox in OpenSuSE 12.1 and for some reason did not work. I am not sure if you are having the same problems I had but this is what popped each time I tried to run it

Quote:

kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908)

The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv.
Please reinstall the kernel module by executing

'/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup'

as root. If it is available in your distribution, you should install the DKMS package first.
This package keeps track of Linux kernel changes and recompiles the vboxdrv kernel module if necessary.

If you find somebody to help you with this that will be good. my solution was remove virtualbox and forget about it.

Good luck to you.

frankbell

03-10-2012 07:27 PM

Quote:

/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup

Did you try executing that command? If so, what results or error messages appeared? The output on the command line might move us forwarder.

Depending on what your distro's VBox packaging is like, it's possible that you might have to d/l and dinstall several components. There is VirtualBox itself (the container for the VMs), the VBox kernel drivers (vboxdrv), and VBox Guest Additions. You may also need to d/l kernel headers and, I think, sources to use Guest Additions, if your distro does not install headers and sources by default.

Knightron

03-10-2012 10:00 PM

I've opensuse 12.1 and actually have a Windows7 vm running at this very moment.
Frankbell, i suspect they've installed from the opensuse repo, which means that won't work.
To install it, use the virtual box repo.
create a file in /etc/zypp/repo.d named 'Oracle_VirtualBox_openSUSE.repo' with the following content.

Code:

[Oracle_VirtualBox_openSUSE]

name=Oracle VirtualBox openSUSE

enabled=1

autorefresh=1

baseurl=http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/opensuse/11.4/

path=/

type=rpm-md

keeppackages=0

install gcc make kernel-devel and dkms, then finally install virtualbox from the added repo. Zypper or Yast will create the module for you.

xxrevenge.

03-10-2012 10:21 PM

For me it doesnt say anything at all! I just click the icon and after a while of the little icon bouncing next to the arrow and stuff it dissapears and the tab goes away....

xxrevenge.

03-10-2012 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightron (Post 4623778)

Code:

[Oracle_VirtualBox_openSUSE]

name=Oracle VirtualBox openSUSE

enabled=1

autorefresh=1

baseurl=http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/rpm/opensuse/11.4/

path=/

type=rpm-md

keeppackages=0

install gcc make kernel-devel and dkms, then finally install virtualbox from the added repo. Zypper or Yast will create the module for you.

I was gonna try that but when I go to the folder it doesn't give me the option to create a new file....it's just gray (as if in not selectable)

TroN-0074

03-10-2012 10:49 PM

You need to create a folder as root from terminal. But your problem might not even be the same problem I had. Are you using a Multi core processor in your computer? and do you have plenty of RAM so the Virtual machine will have enough to run?

ArfaSmif

03-11-2012 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxrevenge. (Post 4623548)

For me, I installed Oracle VirtualBox and it just doesn't open.....:/

I'm running VirtualBox-4.1-4.1.8_75467 on Fedora 15 64 bit. I don't know how it works on openSUSE. Make sure your user is a part of the group vboxusers.

Have you downloaded either http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...-Linux_x86.run for a 32 bit computer or http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...inux_amd64.run for a 64 bit computer. Run one of these as root. You will need a development environment, for example gcc and kernel-headers, for the install to work.

I have successfully synced my Ipod Touch 4G using iTunes under a WinXP virtual machine running in Virtualbox 4.1... You may have to do some more research on how to get Virtualbox running under openSUSE. All I can say is, is that it definitely runs on my system as described before. Good luck.

P.S. You can see what happens by opening a terminal and typing in "virtualbox" as a command (then press enter). This may display any error messages which may help in debugging.

ArfaSmif

03-11-2012 01:59 AM

I should also mention that should you get virtualbox working, you will also need to download the extension package from Oracle and install that as well.

Knightron

03-11-2012 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TroN-0074 (Post 4623798)

Tron, Maybe you should try my directions too. You obviously didn't have dkms installed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ArfaSmif (Post 4623866)

I should also mention that should you get virtualbox working, you will also need to download the extension package from Oracle and install that as well.

Actually it will work, but the person using it will just not be able to use all features that can be achieved with Virtual box, such as usb support, shared folders ect. Obviously the op will want to take your advice though since they will want usb support.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxrevenge. (Post 4623788)

I was gonna try that but when I go to the folder it doesn't give me the option to create a new file....it's just gray (as if in not selectable)

As Tron said, you will need root privileges to access this folder. Do you know how to do this?
You haven't been clear of how new you are to Linux. I'm getting the impression, pretty new?
This is important because it helps us know of how detailed in our instructions we need to be to help you. It's the difference between this.
(Not so new user)

Code:

open up a text editor in /etc/zypp/repo.d and create a repo for virtualbox with x(content)

&
(Brand new User)

Code:

open a terminal and type su. enter root password. Type nano /etc/zypp/repo.d. now paste x(content). press ctrl x together, then y then enter. Finally back in the command propt, enter zypper refresh and then zypper in x(program)

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