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Old 04-07-2009, 02:22 PM   #1
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[Solved]Please Explain The Debian Variants Mystry


Hi All. pLease tell me 'IF' ther is a differnce between packages in debian variants..like if I use pure Debian then can I use kubuntu's packages on it?

Also can some one please suggest me a distro similar to kubuntu(with the packages EASY to FIND and INSTALL without hassels), with root access to it.....more of like archlinux but only with LOADS of packages to install...

do give me a pointer for this...thanks in advance

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Old 04-07-2009, 02:32 PM   #2
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if I use pure Debian then can I use kubuntu's packages on it?
No.

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Also can some one please suggest me a distro similar to kubuntu(with the packages EASY to FIND and INSTALL without hassels), with root access to it.....more of like archlinux but only with LOADS of packages to install...
Do you mean to run as the root user all the time, or is it that you just want to be able to su or login to root?

If the latter, then your Ubuntu has a root account - you just need to set the password.
http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:I..._root_password
 
Old 04-07-2009, 02:38 PM   #3
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Hi All. pLease tell me 'IF' ther is a differnce between packages in debian variants..like if I use pure Debian then can I use kubuntu's packages on it?
Often, yes, though you may run into some dependency issues (e.g. different versions of libraries installed). I have installed quite a few packages from the Debian repositories in Ubuntu, though.

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Also can some one please suggest me a distro similar to kubuntu(with the packages EASY to FIND and INSTALL without hassels), with root access to it.....
There will be differing opinions, but why do you want "root access" (by which I assume you mean root login to KDE)? Running regularly as root more-or-less eliminates the security advantage you get with Linux, and is (IMHO) unnecessary.

You have:
  • sudo - allows you to execute commands as root
  • sudo -i - gives you a root shell
  • gksudo / kdesudo - provide graphical front-ends to sudo, allowing you to run GUI programs with root privileges
It is possible to enable root login in Kubuntu, and instructions are just a Google away. But I'd advise you to think carefully first. Then sleep on it. Then think some more.

Yours,
Rob

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Old 04-07-2009, 03:58 PM   #4
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If you want 'root access' and 'loads' of packages to install,why not just run Debian?.
Also running K/Ubuntu packages in Debian is generally not advised.
Yes it's possible,but why bother when there are so many packages available in the repos already?
You can always compile from source if can't find a binary package.

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Old 04-07-2009, 04:59 PM   #5
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It is possible to enable root login in Kubuntu, and instructions are just a Google away.
That sounds like the right answer for the OP.

I use Mepis, which I think is pretty similar to Kubuntu, but apparently one difference is logging in as root for ordinary GUI operations is not restricted. You can even have two GUI sessions quick swappable, one root and one non root, and just press (IIRC) ctrl-alt-F7, ctrl-alt-F8 to switch between them.

Sometimes I'm trying to do some complicated (for me anyway) that is easier GUI than command line and requires multiple programs (so kdesudo, which I use in other situations, just doesn't cut it). One of the things I prefer about Mepis over some other distributions is that it lets me make that decision (and let me make that decision from the very start, when I was juggling too many other aspects I didn't understand to side track for enabling root). Even if I wanted to run my browser as root (I don't) I could do that. Mainly, I can have my browser in non root session researching something online and ctrl-alt-F8 over to a GUI root session to try each thing I think I understand from that research.

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Old 04-08-2009, 01:11 PM   #6
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Geez thanks guys...I think I will hack kubuntu...the reason is that in KDE the dolphin does not give a non root user access to NTFS drives - wich I use for my music collection.

I would have definately tried debian instead but its just that...debian restricts mp3 playback and all so I thought that only its variants provide such repos.

But anyways thanks a bunch guyz.
 
Old 04-08-2009, 03:01 PM   #7
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debian-multimedia repo contains all your multimedia playback needs for Debian.

Else where would the 'variants' have obtained the ability ? they certainly didn't develop all that independent of Debian.

Just wanted to clear up a possible misconception. Debian is fully capable of those features.
 
Old 04-09-2009, 11:03 AM   #8
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reason is that in KDE the dolphin does not give a non root user access to NTFS drives
Surely it does - how are you mounting the ntfs partition?


fstab entry something like this?
/dev/sda1 /mnt/sda1 ntfs-3g defaults,umask=0000 0 0

see "man mount" for details - scroll down for ntfs specific options.
I actually don't know if you teed the umask with ntfs-3g - your comments suggest that you do.
 
Old 08-20-2009, 01:46 AM   #9
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Yes I was mounting it with HAL hotplugging....

But the issue was with me not being in policykit group,corrected it by adding me to groups & adding fstab entry.

Also to clear up...I now use Deian and noi its variants - Learnt a lot coz of it, its really a stable distro plus has a great community support everywhere.
 
  


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