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Old 10-20-2012, 09:27 AM   #16
shivaa
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Henri, let me ask you, what action you're doing with these files? And what type of these files are.. are these songs?
Well I can see, you're logged in hn user account (I guess this is your Unix account) and these files have hn user as owner, who has all read, write, and execute permissions on these files. Then I don't understand why people are saying that it's a problem with permissions!!
As I said, there's nothing wrong with file permissions, but they're NOT simple text files, that is why you cannot open them on a TERMINAL.
Code:
hn@hn-LapTop:~$ cd Music ls -l
 hn@hn-LapTop:~/Music$ ls -l
 total 7216
 
drwx------ 2 hn hn 4096 Oct 17 10:29 0_MEMORIES
 drwx------ 2 hn hn 12288 Oct 9 15:14 1_CLASS
Yes you're right that you can open a music or jpeg file in Windows, then you can do the same in Unix as well when you use Unix GUI, but not in a terminal. I hope you're getting what's difference between a terminal and GUI.
Well, can you open a mp3 or jpeg on Windows command prompt? NO. But you can play that mp3 or see the jpeg in Windows picture manager or Windows media player. The same thing is there in your Unix that you're trying to open or execute a mp3 file on terminal not in GUI.

So just tell me what exactly you are doing with files inside Music folder.

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Old 10-20-2012, 09:30 AM   #17
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Ok jkirchner is about permissions i grant you but it does not help to respond my above 3 questions (please cf. with my answer to meninvenus, above)

The fact remains that:

a) I did provide the output: the list of -l (whatever that means)

b) Contrary, absolute opposite to your opinion that i'm "chasing away people", i did thank the advises/inputs of 3 different Members: WIM, meninvenus and valdinei.

c) I can see that your stronghold stance, regrettably, is also to pass judgement and scolding others' style and behaviour -- something that i'm allways ready not to stand for and to flame out once i am addressed as such

d) i understand that you strongly dislike any "venting frustrations" caused by actual erratic and/or irrational Linux OS incidents. Mine is a different culture: i do not accept forbidden subjects and themes, and believe the best way to achieve real serious friendly credibility is to assume shortcommings and defective or downgraded Linux characteristics;

e) following up the last item of mine, i have to grant that i'm not an easy-going person to deal with. I am aloof and lacking tolerance to 'hollier than thou' attitudes -- summing it overall up: i do not like or stand for scolding proses and you do not like my 'harsh and unwarranted' style. And i propose that situation as a non-aggressive last agreement -- since i was already invited by the Great Newbee's Manitou to leave this section/thread (or all site???) and i'm trying to comply.

So leave me alone and i'll give you that same retribution.
Sincerely,
henriQ

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Old 10-20-2012, 09:47 AM   #18
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To meninvenus before i leave the premises:

Said Files inside subfolder Music only purpose is to be called for reproduction (play) which they still do and ever did with no problems.
I repeat: i never intended to "open" (to inspect or change codification contents...)

I only tried to learn WHY suddenly under no different management from me they became decorated with
an emblem that means UNREADABLE and which i am not able to get rid of, hence my other qestions which
no one cared or knew to vent plausible meannings and or effective blocking these stupid displays.

And that's it.
Regards,
 
Old 10-20-2012, 09:58 AM   #19
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Dear Henri,
We all are throughout learners and we also post questions here in this forum, which are not answered correctly for many days.. So there's no point of getting impatience.
A terminal in Unix is nothing but just it's command prompter, like the command prompt (open using Run -> "cmd" command) in Windows.
GUI (Graphical User Interface) in Unix and Windows is same, and it's your desktop, where you use mouse to work with, and open/execute files using a double click or right click etc.
You didn't mention the action you're taking on those music file, so perhaps you're either opening them or EXECUTING them. There's no meaning of opening a non-text based file in a terminal. Such files should be opened in their respective softwares i.e. in music player or image viewer.

So simple solution is do not try to open (or execute) them on a terminal or console. But if want to listen to them, then use GUI of your Unix and enjoy!
 
Old 10-20-2012, 10:07 AM   #20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by henriQ View Post
Ok jkirchner is about permissions i grant you but it does not help to respond my above 3 questions (please cf. with my answer to meninvenus, above)

The fact remains that:

a) I did provide the output: the list of -l (whatever that means)

b) Contrary, absolute opposite to your opinion that i'm "chasing away people", i did thank the advises/inputs of 3 different Members: WIM, meninvenus and valdinei.

c) I can see that your stronghold stance, regrettably, is also to pass judgement and scolding others' style and behaviour -- something that i'm allways ready not to stand for and to flame out once i am addressed as such

d) i understand that you strongly dislike any "venting frustrations" caused by actual erratic and/or irrational Linux OS incidents. Mine is a different culture: i do not accept forbidden subjects and themes, and believe the best way to achieve real serious friendly credibility is to assume shortcommings and defective or downgraded Linux characteristics;

e) following up the last item of mine, i have to grant that i'm not an easy-going person to deal with. I am aloof and lacking tolerance to 'hollier than thou' attitudes -- summing it overall up: i do not like or stand for scolding proses and you do not like my 'harsh and unwarranted' style. And i propose that situation as a non-aggressive last agreement -- since i was already invited by the Great Newbee's Manitou to leave this section/thread (or all site???) and i'm trying to comply.

So leave me alone and i'll give you that same retribution.
Sincerely,
henriQ
Learn it yourself then.

BTW, I explicitly and so did Wim Sturkenboom ask you to provide the permissions to the files in one of the folders. You must have missed that among "God thrash this person" comments

as an FYI your comment "God trash him hard" == harsh and unwarranted

Last edited by jkirchner; 10-20-2012 at 10:09 AM.
 
Old 10-20-2012, 04:03 PM   #21
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THANKZ ALL FOR THE CLARIFYING ANSWERS PROVIDED TO MY QUERIES CONCERNING ICONS EMBLEMS SUDDENLY DISPLAYING IN MY FOLDER "MUSIC"
(IF anyone is interested to review the said idiotic Linux decorations of .mp3 files, please
peer over my annexed image below...)

MY REPEATED NON ANSWERED QUESTIONS ON THE SUBJECT:

1. reasons WHY

2. WHAT it intends to convey

3. HOW can the stupid emblerms be blocked out.

and that said i shall fold my tents...

Sadly,
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Old 10-20-2012, 04:24 PM   #22
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1. You somehow changed the permissions on those files.
2. These emblems are there to show you that you don't have permissions on those files.
3. Don't change permissions on files you want to have access to.
 
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Old 10-20-2012, 05:34 PM   #23
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It is understandable your frustration but please keep in mind people helping here are all voluntary and noone is even required to answer questions

Quote:
Originally Posted by henriQ View Post
1. reasons WHY

2. WHAT it intends to convey

3. HOW can the stupid emblerms be blocked out.
So what you see on your file browsers are no decorations these simbols. are indicating that these files belown to a different user. Perhaps you have multi users settup on your computer, or you copy these files under a different account using a different user, maybe you did copy these files as root and now you are trying to open them as regular user. You still able to read them but you cant delete or modify them.

So the intention of the system on displaying them that way is to remind you that they below to a different user.

You can change the permission by issuing the chmod command as root on your terminal. If you are not comfortable using the terminal you can leave the files like that and change them once you become confortable with the command line. There is no harm in leaving them like that other than the fact that is bugging you.

Linux was developed as multi user enviroment and in order to protect your data set up permission for users and group.

I would suggest you read as much as you can about the chmod command and about linux and Unix in general.

Good luck to you.
 
Old 10-21-2012, 06:20 AM   #24
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People, as far as I understand it, henriQ is able to listen to this music (see post #18). That means that he is logged in as user hn. So why the icons with the red cross?

@henriQ
I did ask to travers down into the directory tree (e.g. cd 1_CLASS) and give the output of ls -l again.

Open a terminal
run cd Music/1_CLASS
run ls -l
Post the first couple of lines as you did before

Also provide the output of ls -ld ~/Music and ls -ld /home. Are you using a separate partition for /home?

You probably have right clicked on your music folder, choosen properties from the context menu, selected the permissions tab, changed the permissions for group and other to none and applied it to all files. Or you follwed some advise that you on the web to run something like chmod -R 700 ~/Music.

It still does not explain the combination of the red cross and the fact that you can play them. But maybe your feedback on the above requests will give us a better idea.
 
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