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Old 10-18-2012, 08:53 AM   #1
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Please explain meaning of these obnoxious icon decorations and how o get rid of them


Greetings,
All the files bellow are READABLE and reproducing in good conditions so i would appreciate any clarifying info on the why did they suddenly show as displayed -- and how to prevent or block or change these stupid things -- please notice my annexed image.
Thanks for you help.
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Old 10-18-2012, 08:57 AM   #2
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Where? distro?
desktop?
 
Old 10-18-2012, 09:14 AM   #3
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My first guess is that the "X" icon means you do not have permission to alter the files. (Need root access.) But I could be wrong of course.
 
Old 10-18-2012, 09:20 AM   #4
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THANKZ for your attention, amani.

WHERE: In files kept in the subfolder MUSIC in the folder Home; depicted image is just a small chunk of the overall contents, but it is representative enough not only of what i refer, but also of the type of files referred. And ALL of them bear this 'emblem'.

DISTRO: ZORIN 5.2 Linux installed on the HD

Format: KDE in a Toshiba 600-LapTop

Hope that wil suffice.
Regards,

Last edited by henriQ; 10-18-2012 at 09:22 AM. Reason: last minute corrections
 
Old 10-19-2012, 08:18 AM   #5
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Open a terminal (in KDE I think it's called Konsole).

Code:
cd Music
ls -l
Please post the output here using code tags; you can cut it short to the first few lines so we can see permissions and ownership.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 09:12 AM   #6
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Thankz for your good attention. Here goes the resulting list:

hn@hn-LapTop:~$ cd Music ls -l
hn@hn-LapTop:~/Music$ ls -l
total 7216

drwx------ 2 hn hn 4096 Oct 17 10:29 0_MEMORIES
drwx------ 2 hn hn 12288 Oct 9 15:14 1_CLASS
drwx------ 2 hn hn 4096 Oct 9 15:16 2_CLASS
drwx------ 2 hn hn 4096 Oct 9 15:17 3_OPERA
drwx------ 2 hn hn 4096 Oct 9 15:14 4_OLDIES
drwx------ 2 hn hn 12288 Oct 9 15:16 5_POPs

Hope you're able now to provide an adequate prevention action.

Regards,

Last edited by henriQ; 10-19-2012 at 09:13 AM.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 09:54 AM   #7
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Now your permissions is 700

try change permission 770 Owner and group have permission read, write, execute.

Code:
chmod -R 770 ~/Music/
Not resolve ? Return to original mode

Code:
chmod -R 700 ~/Music/
 
Old 10-19-2012, 10:37 AM   #8
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Please do not follow valdinei's "advice" as it doesn't produce the access permissions it should.
If you want to change access permissions recursively use something like
Code:
chmod 0770 ~/Music
find ~/Music -type f -print0 | xargs -0 -iX chmod 0640 'X'
instead.

*Reading your other posts also I suggest you re-read things carefully before you post. Venting your anger and frustration may make you feel good but it should not be directed at your fellow LQ members nor does venting it contribute to solving your case.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 10:45 AM   #9
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OK, those are directories. The owner is user 'hn' and has full access. You have to go a bit deeper (e.g. cd 1_CLASS) so we can see the actual files (ls -l again). The only way I can reproduce this is by giving files those permissions (rwx------) and trying to access them as another user; in which case that other user does not have access to them at all which contradicts your statement that you can play them.

So I'm not quite sure what's going on, sorry.

But I think that unspawn's solution will probably work
 
Old 10-19-2012, 02:38 PM   #10
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Salut to anyone who cared to answer me in good faith and thank you for your time.

However i must say that as a newbee, as i early declared my status was, i do not understand the meaning of permission levels of 700 or 770 or not even just 7; i do not understand chmod dealings and i am not prepared to comply with Linux scripting... BUT i could understand that:

1st .- obtained no clarifying answer as what causes the obnoxious, stupid emblem symbol of a red circle containning a white cross;

2nd . - got no clear explanation of what that idiot masquerade intended to signify and much less how to get rid of it (which was one my definitive questions and help demand base);

3rd . in compensation i could derive from some fellow who found himself entittled to pass judgements unto others -- God trash him hard -- some upperbrowsed advise to behave and refrain my venting frustrations because in spite of making me feeling good (!!!- good grief, spare me! Your full of it, my "friend"...) ultimately, it would not contribute to solve my case (although as it can be understood from my above points 1st and 2nd, he was right.)

Thank you very much Wim Sturkenboom for your straithforward, honest answer.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 03:34 PM   #11
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LQ has been around for some time and we have the distinct pleasure of watching hundreds of new Linux users post their issues. Most of them display common sense, adhere to Netiquette and tend to acclimatize w/o major problems. Those that don't often receive enough nudgings from fellow LQ members to fit in soon after. For the very few (say once a year) that don't want to fit in there's always a moderator around to help them acclimatize. And often a friendly word seems to be enough to avoid escalation.

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(..) God trash him hard (..) Your full of it, my "friend" (..)
Apart from the entertaining but questionable practice of invoking deities your response was completely unwarranted: please mind your language and stop exposing LQ to any more expressions of frustration.
 
Old 10-19-2012, 03:47 PM   #12
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Thank you sincerely valdinei

Your prescription used within complete 'ignoramus' state of mind produced 100% good riddance effect in the reported idiocy.
My mp3 files no longer display the stupid emblem. Thanks as i said; although i'm still deepened in the most shameful ignorance of why these "decorations" appeared; what do they mean and how to avoid them -- the items i also asked help to.

But in compensation i already managed to obtain a serious severe corrective admonition about "venting my frustrations" -- which to me meant: "Frustrate ahead but do not complain about the possible irrationalities of our sacred System. Bear the results of the compromises we had to assume and do not dare to expose them...-- otherwise you're not wellcomed!"

Regards to you and to Wim

As to the high Guru moderator who vented me his disapproval about my
style and invited me out, he was able to convince me:

LQ - i fare thee well.

Hope he will be happy never having again to cope with my ventings, although i have to accept my defeat: NO PERTINENT ANSWERS TO MY ABOVE QUESTIONS.
What a performance! Hèlas!

Last edited by henriQ; 10-19-2012 at 04:06 PM. Reason: needed corrections
 
Old 10-19-2012, 03:55 PM   #13
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Quote:
Originally Posted by henriQ View Post
Salut to anyone who cared to answer me in good faith and thank you for your time.

However i must say that as a newbee, as i early declared my status was, i do not understand the meaning of permission levels of 700 or 770 or not even just 7; i do not understand chmod dealings and i am not prepared to comply with Linux scripting... BUT i could understand that:

1st .- obtained no clarifying answer as what causes the obnoxious, stupid emblem symbol of a red circle containning a white cross;

2nd . - got no clear explanation of what that idiot masquerade intended to signify and much less how to get rid of it (which was one my definitive questions and help demand base);

3rd . in compensation i could derive from some fellow who found himself entittled to pass judgements unto others -- God trash him hard -- some upperbrowsed advise to behave and refrain my venting frustrations because in spite of making me feeling good (!!!- good grief, spare me! Your full of it, my "friend"...) ultimately, it would not contribute to solve my case (although as it can be understood from my above points 1st and 2nd, he was right.)

Thank you very much Wim Sturkenboom for your straithforward, honest answer.
I think I am quite late to reply to this thread, but as far as I could understand, there's nothing with file permission or ownership.
In Unix, you can only open a text file and read it's content, but you cannot read content of a file which is not in text format.
It's same in Windows OS as well. can you there read a music mp3 file or a jpeg image?? I am sure you cannot.
Here actualy you're trying to open a non-text file in a terminal, that is why you are getting such ambigues output. I can't understnad why are you trying to open a Music file on Unix terminal? Listening to a music file i.e. mp3 file in Unix or Windows is nothing but executing or reading it.
 
Old 10-20-2012, 07:10 AM   #14
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Thank you meninvenus,

I understood your explanation but while well intentioned it does not respond to my queries, which were:

1. -- WHY such icon decorations suddenly appear in all the .mp3 music files in my subfolder Music;
2. -- WHAT do they intend to mean;
3. -- HOW can an ignorant newbee get rid of such stupid emblems

Further let me advance to your acknowledge that:
a) I never intended to "open" such files and never experienced any trouble to reproduce them.
b) Further, let me add that YES we can "open" a jpeg file or a mp3 in windows OS -- and except for some evil designs, like insert 'worms' in them, i can not see any useful serious advantage on this hacking actions.
c) i must enphasize that none of the above enumerated questions obtained a satisfactory answer and I was already invited by the Great Condottieri of thishere section to drop it out. And
regrettably enough i feel compelled to obey him.

Kind regards,

Last edited by henriQ; 10-20-2012 at 07:13 AM.
 
Old 10-20-2012, 07:50 AM   #15
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It has to do with permissions. Wim Sturkenboom posted this:

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OK, those are directories. The owner is user 'hn' and has full access. You have to go a bit deeper (e.g. cd 1_CLASS) so we can see the actual files (ls -l again). The only way I can reproduce this is by giving files those permissions (rwx------) and trying to access them as another user; in which case that other user does not have access to them at all which contradicts your statement that you can play them.

So I'm not quite sure what's going on, sorry.

But I think that unspawn's solution will probably work
And kindly asked you to show the ls -l output from within one of the folders. Once we see that I truly believe this can be fixed.

I do think you are chasing away people who may want to assist you with your responses. They are quite harsh and unwarranted. I understand your frustration but we are all volunteers trying to help.

If you check here you will see it is permissions related.
 
  


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