.. That was the name of the damn editor I used to use !!
Thanks for help guys, I will give that a thrash.
btw.. surely SU'ing in a cli makes you root ? I have to enter the root password !!
Also found out there is no root login in kde in this install. I found out how to suss that out.
open file manager super user mode
enter root password
go to /etc/kde/kdm
click on file kdmrc and it will open in kwrite
select edit > find
in the text to find box type allowrootlogin and uncheck case sensitive > click find
change the word false to true
it should now look like this AllowRootLogin=true
also check the section beginning [X-*-Greeter] if you have an entry HiddenUsers=root just delete the word root so it reads
save and exit, when you next reboot root login will be shown
Just in case anyone else is having these kind of problems.
I wont be going round the Father in Laws till thursday so I will let you all know what happnes !!
( this is all good practise as I downloaded a 4.4 gb x64 debian image last week. Gonna get a new Hard drive and dual boot my PC