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Old 07-12-2007, 03:34 PM   #31
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that means, for example
$ wine --help
or
$ wine --version
are the commands
Note: do not type $ with the commands
there is also
$ wine (type windows program name here)
 
Old 07-12-2007, 06:57 PM   #32
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Are we still trying to run the paltalk program?
What is wrong with using the GAIM plugin?

As for pixelanny ... he has supplied you with an example of commands run in his terminal. It is what the terminal looks like (sort-of a screenshot, but only of the torminal) after a command has been run.

Open a terminal.

Looking at it you will see a prompt that looks a bit (but not exactly) like this:

simon@indigo-prime:~$

i.e. <user-name>@<computer-name>:<current working directory>$

In my example, my user-name is "simon", my computer is called "indigo-prime" and I am working in my home directory "~" (the squiggle means /home/<user-name>). The dollar-sign at the end means that I am logged in as a regular user. If I were administrator (called "root"), then it would be a hash # sign.

Commands are entered after this.

Pixelanny intends that you enter the command written after the first $ sign in his example and hopes that you will get the result that appears below. In this case the command to enter is:

wine

As this is the wrong way to use wine, it responds by printing the version of itself (in case you think you are using a different version and that is why yau got it wrong) followed by a very brief set of hints as to how to use it (you are supposed to think: "oh yes, silly me, that's what I should have done ...").... then it gives the command prompt back to you so you can try another command.

When you are reporting stuff that happens in a terminal, you do it the way pixellany has done: copy out the entire command, as well as the result.

So, if I do this, I would report:
Code:
simon@indigo-prime:~$ wine
The program 'wine' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
sudo apt-get install wine
Make sure you have the 'universe' component enabled
bash: wine: command not found
simon@indigo-prime:~$
.... this happens because wine is not installed.

If this happens for you, and you still want wine, ignore the file you already have... it is hard to install. Instead, open up "synaptic". You find in one of your panel menus or, possibly, in the control panel. For me it is in "system > administration > synaptic packet manager" - you will probably be different but it will be someplace administrationy. I have provided a link in a previous message about how to install programs this way.

Synaptic will want your password before it starts.

Synaptic has a search function - left-click <search> and enter "wine" into the dialog. You'll get a list of stuff to do with wine, only one will be right, read the descriptions to find which one (probably, but not always, the top one).

Click the box to the left of the one you want, then select install from the popup. Then click the "apply" button at the top of the screen.

This sounds convoluted because describing what to do in a gui is like that. This is why we usually use terminal commands. In your case you could have tried:

$ sudo aptitude update
$ sudo aptitude install wine

(note, two commands one after the other... wait for the first to finish before entering the next.)

Now a lesson for you: the "terminal" is called "bash"... you want to learn how to use this. Google "bash tutorial" and try a couple of them.

Last edited by Simon Bridge; 07-12-2007 at 08:00 PM.
 
Old 07-13-2007, 03:23 AM   #33
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here is what you say:

[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$ wine--version
bash: wine--version: command not found

[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$ wine--help
bash: wine--help: command not found

[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$ wine pal_install_r17708.exe
wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pal_install_r17708.exe": Module not found

[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$



according what you told the wine is not installed, can you please help install it even though i have installed all the available updates from the synaptic list as Simon Bridge has suggested.
 
Old 07-13-2007, 04:09 AM   #34
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Quote:
$ wine--version
...is incorrect, you need a gap like this:
Code:
$ wine --version
... or better still, don't use an option at all:
Code:
$ wine
 
Old 07-13-2007, 06:41 AM   #35
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this is the reply:

[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$ wine
bash: wine: command not found
[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$

can you please teach me how to install it now? and can you post me a relevant link so that i can download this very important program and install it hopefully, because i am totally lost i don't now version to download.

thank you
 
Old 07-13-2007, 07:27 AM   #36
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Linux is designed for people who already know how to use it... which makes me wonder how people ever learned how to use it in the first place!
This is not true - but being a newbie is frustrating and you have to hang on in there. Linux isn't Windows and you have to stop saying "But in Windows it's like this..." I made that mistake myself, so I know how you feel!And yes, it is difficult to understand sometimes, but there are pleanty of people on the forums to help.

Quote:
Plus I don't know any Linux gurus...
There are some on this forum, aren't there pixellany?! Congratualations, by the way.
 
Old 07-13-2007, 08:12 AM   #37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by salover
this is the reply:

[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$ wine
bash: wine: command not found
[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$

can you please teach me how to install it now? and can you post me a relevant link so that i can download this very important program and install it hopefully, because i am totally lost i don't now version to download.

thank you
I thought you said that you had found it in Synaptic, but you maybe were referring to something else. You can go back to Synaptic and install the actual wine package, or you can try the method with apt-get which Simon_Bridge supplied.

With Synaptic, do you know the basics of how to use it?---ie "mark for installation", followed by clicking the "apply" button.
 
Old 07-13-2007, 08:25 AM   #38
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http://www.locohacker.net/Paltalk_Pr...inux_L197.html
... the above link leads to a plugin for GAIM which lets you use it as a paltalk client.

To install wine... open a terminal and enter:

sudo apt-get install wine

to run windows executable "winprog.exe" with wine, enter:

wine winprog.exe
 
Old 07-13-2007, 11:37 AM   #39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Simon Bridge
http://www.locohacker.net/Paltalk_Pr...inux_L197.html
... the above link leads to a plugin for GAIM which lets you use it as a paltalk client.

To install wine... open a terminal and enter:

sudo apt-get install wine

to run windows executable "winprog.exe" with wine, enter:

wine winprog.exe
i am sorry but this program is no longer existing have you tried before distibuting it to other people?

you might as well view this link:

http://xodian.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=20

all the best

salover
 
Old 07-13-2007, 10:54 PM   #40
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you might as well view this link:
Thanks for that... OK GAIM-PT is done. Reasons given:
Quote:
One of the biggest reasons for discontinuing gaim-pt is that Paltalk itself is going the way of the dinosaur, reaching, and reaching, trying to grab ahold of some niche of the market, but inevitably, will cease to be. Nowadays, Paltalk is more of an over-glorified online personals site, rather than a strong, diverse, vibrant community. Personally, I don't see the point in trying to implement video support just so someone can get their rocks off at 5 am. In the beginning, Paltalk was an innovative (though unconventional) conferencing tool that allowed us to interact with individuals from all over the world. That era is well past, my friends, and I'm sure this hasn't gone unnoticed. You can thank the marketing "engineers" behind Paltalk for their constant lapses in judgement, and their misguided attempts to divine what users want, which has led to this. It's been a constant ebb and flow of marketing BS within the community: from banner ads, to spyware, to what's now a poor excuse for a personals site. In their efforts to gorge themselves on every last dime in your wallets, you have to stop and ask, "What sort of convoluted monstrosity will Paltalk become next?" :P
... this is also my experience, which is why I didn't notice the project discontinue.

Given all this, I guess you have your own reasons for continuing with this "service"?

Have you tried installing wine yet?
 
Old 07-14-2007, 07:01 AM   #41
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I'll try to save you a lot trouble, and you can determine if this is worth the effort. The Link for the GAIM version was dead, maybe its hosted elsewhere.

Don't know what version of paltalk you have, but here's what the wine App Database says about paltalk.

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6757

Under description it pretty much says the current version has the same problems as version 8.5, those problems are in a little more detail below.

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5809

So I guess it all figures on how much you want to work on this, because it looks like its probably only going to work about 20-30%. Since it appears your efforts to use this application with wine will probably be futile, you have 3 options.

Dual boot- Which would suck to boot windows just to send IMs..
Vmware- Learn to install/run Windows in a virtual environment.
Pidgin- Learn to live w/o paltalk, and just use Pidgin/Kopete, whatever.
IGF

Last edited by IndyGunFreak; 07-14-2007 at 07:04 AM.
 
Old 07-14-2007, 05:30 PM   #42
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[QUOTE=pixellany]I thought you said that you had found it in Synaptic,]


thyank you for your efforts i respect all the answers above, i have now got some new messages from the terminal when i type wine, see the following:



[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$ wine
Usage: wine PROGRAM [ARGUMENTS...] Run the specified program
wine --help Display this help and exit
wine --version Output version information and exit
[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$

please this time help me from here, guide me the correct way and version of wine to install


thank you for time
 
Old 07-14-2007, 06:31 PM   #43
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i also tried wine to install paltalk again and here is what the result was:


[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$ wine pal_install_r17708.exe
wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\pal_install_r17708.exe": Module not found
[salover@cpc3-nfds1-0-0-cust810 ~]$
 
Old 07-14-2007, 06:44 PM   #44
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You've noticed that wine is installed... good.
You need to move the paltalk exe file to ~/.wine/c_drive/windows/system32/

You need to read through the documents in winehq on how to configure and run wine.

Buh mostly, you need to use something other than paltalk.
 
Old 07-15-2007, 03:25 AM   #45
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sorry i have never moved files to directories on linux, can you please explain to me how i would find the directories, because i have been looking for the wine folder but can't find it and further more when i type wine in the synaptic for package updates, it can't find the wine at all.

cheers
 
  


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