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Old 10-03-2003, 05:42 AM   #1
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partitioning plus recovery disk CAN'T work, resizing AFTER might, new OS CD also


Hello again folks,
After a lot of research, I've found out, that apparently I can't partition my hard drive, and then reinstall Windows using a RECOVERY CD...they're just not made that way. But that doesn't mean I'm up the creek yet. There are still at least two other possibilities I want to find out about, as follows.

One, I am told by others here, that one can RESIZE partitions, or even create new ones, WHILE WINDOWS CONTINUES TO BE INSTALLED AND AVAILABLE. (or continues to be REINSTALLED, whatever). BUt I haven't the vaguest idea how to do this. I checked all the DOS commands at a DOS Help site, and there does not appear to be a Resize command. Anybody know anything about how to do this?

Two, I was told on another forum that one can actually make one's own Operating System installation CD (CDRW that is), of Windows for example, by simply making an image of the Setup and CAB (CABINET) files, immediately after reinstalling windows. This is SHOCKING to me, doesn't seem like the kind of thing Microsoft would make it easy to do. Anybody have any insight or experience with this?

Now, at this point, I still don't even know how to make a boot floppy off a boot floppy download. Last time I tried this, in fact more than once, I just get an invalid disk message, when I try to use it to boot up, even after carefully setting the floppy drive as the boot drive.

All patient help appreciated, the bootdisk sites don't seem too keen on step by step procedure for beginners like me, who don't have the foggiest. SOMEDAY, I'll be able to install Linux, on a dual boot basis.

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Old 10-03-2003, 06:22 AM   #2
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OK, 1st things 1st. To resize a Windows partition, you need a utility such as Partition Manager. Some distros such as Mandrake have these utilities built-in. What you have to do is "shrink" the Win partition to create free space for Linux.

If you have one of those "recovery" CD's like HP or Compaq have and not a "normal" Windows CD, then re-installing Windows might pose a problem. They tend to partition, format and install without any help from you. Nice eh?

In any case, you can resize a Windows partition without destroying the data (BUT ... beware, Murphy's Law applies here).

As far as the boot disk goes, can your PC boot from the CD? If so, put the 1st Linux CD in the drive and give it the "3-fingered-salute".

Setting Linux up in a dual boot config is a no-brainer if Windows is installed first and running properly.

HTH a bit
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Old 10-09-2003, 08:28 AM   #3
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Hi Baldrick,
Thanks for your replies....I'm taking this opportunity to mention that someone on computing .net todl me I could create my own windows OS CD, by copying CAB and other files to CD....then I could resize partitions, and hope that the computer would boot up from the new CD!....Would be great if it worked, but Murhpy's Law again, and I'd be surprised if Bill Gates would allow such a thing to be easy.

Thanks again,
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Old 10-09-2003, 08:59 AM   #4
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From memory, I don't think that is as simple as that. Sure, you can copy the .cab files, BUT, the CD needs to be bootable, and you also need the windows setup.exe file (and probably some others as well).

In theory, this should work. But before you go ahead and install anything, make sure you can boot from your "Custom Windows CD" and install the OS. If that works, then I guess it's full steam ahead.

An important thing to remember in all this is that Linux is NOT Windows, and will require some learning on your part (and that's a good thing ... trust me). And when you get stuck (as most people do from time to time) don't forget that this forum has helped out many newbies and pros alike

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Old 10-17-2003, 12:34 PM   #5
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Hi Baldrick,
Thank you for your replies....I think you might see what the basic problem is now, and that is is there any way I can POSSIBLY get ANY kind of OS CD to boot up.....wether it be an "image CD", "iso" CD, "HD backup CD", whatever....its a very tough nut to crack, but also a personal challenge. Sometimes these things can be done, if just ONE or TWO simple hurdles can be JUMPED....but the "bootup floppy" looks like an extremely NASTY, USER UNFRIENDLY one.....For example, my burning software even has a facility for making a bootup floppy to go with a "HD backup" which I made....but that doesn't mean it let me make one. I just got Retry error every time I inserted the floppy.....but even if I could handle that part of it....I wouldn't have the foggiest notion of what to enter at the A prompt when it comes time to boot up the new CD. (I did try, for example, I just typed "boot"....no go. And yes, I did check the table of DOS commands on the web (I used a windows startup floppy).....anyway, thanks again for your replies.

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Old 10-17-2003, 12:38 PM   #6
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"image CD", "iso" CD, "HD backup CD"
What are these?
 
Old 10-17-2003, 12:44 PM   #7
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As mentioned in the other thread of yours, you need to burn the CDs properly. Don't copy the iso file onto a CD. Choose to burn image.
 
Old 10-17-2003, 12:47 PM   #8
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Incidentally beginnerx, do you have a link to info on how to make a windows OS CD from a recovery CD?

A friend of mine has the exact same problem...he dualboots linux and winXP, but if WinXP becomes toast, he's got a serious problem since the recovery CD wipes everything out and makes it one big 80 GIG partition.

*sigh* why can't windows stuff ever play friendly?
 
  


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