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Old 12-21-2006, 04:41 PM   #1
steve_fletch78
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Question Opensuse 10.2 Installation Problems


Hey,

I'm a total newbie to Linux installation so please respond with the least 'techie' phrases possible!

I am trying to set up Linux on my wifes old PC, a celeron 1100Mhz machine with 256MB ram and 20GB hard drive. It's got built in graphics and sound card, USB mouse and keyboard. A PCI dial up modem and PCI wireless reciever (for our broadband).

I started off with the free Fedora Core 6 disk that came with Linux Format magazine. After failing miserably I downloaded Kubuntu. I failed to get this too work then moved to Puppy Linux. I can get this to run (from the CD drive) but not install. I then read around the web and downloaded OpenSUSE 10.2.
I burned the 5 CD's today and began trying to install.
WHen installing I set the PC BIOS to look to the CD rom drive first.
It picks up the initial page OK, I select install and it drops out of the nice funky GUI to a crappy old one, OK, I can live with this. Then it runs through and starts installing. I tried firstly the KDE the GNOME (Is that right?!?) settings, both seem to install OK, but when it gets to the point where it should be asking me to insert Disk 2 - it thinks it's finished and trys to boot up the machine.
OK - so then it goes through a load of system checks and comes to a grey screne with the SUSE logo on it, there is a text box in the middle (looks like password entry window) doesn't print any characters as I type. A window opens at the bootm saying: no config for eth0

What's going on? Am I asking to much of this crappy old Packard Bell or what?!?

Please help!

Cheers
Steve

PS I have some basic understanding, am a UNIX user at work.
PPS Fedora Core 6 error message as system hangs: BUG: spin lockup on CPU0
DWARF2 unwinder stuck at syscall_call+0x7/0xb

ALso - If is trat Opensuse with safeguard mode it goes to a text screena sking me for my linux login and passowrd. I have not yet defined either. Are there default login/passwords?

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Old 12-21-2006, 04:49 PM   #2
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It sounds almost like you selected a network installation. If not, look in the first disc inside the docu folder. One of the pdf files will step you through the installation options. I haven't installed openSuSE10.2 yet. It may be rebooting so that it can continue the installation running linux from a base install rather than from memory.

Unless I misunderstood the place you were in your installation. SuSE will reboot and start up the X server between the installation and configuration stages. It does this to run YaST2 using one of the windows managers, fvwm2 I think.

Here is a link to the same Document on a mirror site:
http://covet.cs.utah.edu/pub/opensus...startup_en.pdf

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Old 12-21-2006, 05:34 PM   #3
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I didn't select network install.
I think it's just not letting me insert disks 2 & 3.

Tried to repair it from the install menus and it hangs at 41%

WHat do you reccomend I do next?
 
Old 12-28-2006, 12:15 PM   #4
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Linux Installation Help

Help!

I am trying to install Linux onto my old PC.
It's a Packard Bell Imedia 4607.
It's running a Pentium Celeron CHip at 1100MHz
It has a 20Gb hard drive
It has 2 x 128MB PC100 168pin SDRAM chips.
The graphics and soundcard are built into the motherboards
There is a Wireless card in one of the PCI sockets
There is a 56k modem in one of the PCI sockets.

SO far I have failed to install:

Fedora Core 6 (Free with Linux Format magazine - saw it in WH Smiths and though...hmm might have ago...)
- Locks up with BUG: spin lockup on CPU0
DWARF2 unwinder stuck at syscall_call+0x7/0xb

Opensuse 10.2
- Says I don't have enough memory for graphical install so uses text based install, gets to end of disk one installation, then where you'd expect it to ask you to insert disk 2, it stops and finalizes the OS. When it reboots it fails as components are missing!!!

Kubuntu
- Looks like it's doing something for 5 mins but then I end up with locked blue screen and mouse pointer that doesn't move.

Madriva One 2007
- gets to, 'Checking if partitions have enough free disk space [OK]', then locks ups.....I thought this was supposed to be a live CD version???

I'm currently downloading SLackware to see if that doesn't work too!

I can get puppy linux to run from CD but can't work out how to install it.
Am trying damn small linux aswell....

What am I doing so wrong??? What basic checks should I do first??? I have downloaded G-Parted and partitioned the drive up into 2 x 10gig partitions and formatted as ext2.
The machine originally ran XP, the drive was split 2/18 with XP on the 2. I merged it all and formatted XP. The drive was NFTS.

Please give some advice, getting incredibly infuriated now....

Cheers
Steve
 
Old 01-03-2007, 04:15 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by steve_fletch78
I didn't select network install.
I think it's just not letting me insert disks 2 & 3.

Tried to repair it from the install menus and it hangs at 41%

WHat do you reccomend I do next?
Did you ever get this problem resolved? I've got precisely the same problem on a machine which had version 9.1 working ok. It's doing my head in.

cheers
 
Old 01-03-2007, 08:39 PM   #6
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Did you ever get this problem resolved? I've got precisely the same problem on a machine which had version 9.1 working ok. It's doing my head in.

cheers
I am running into exactly the same problem too.

Disk1 seems to install fine. The system then goes through its normal bootup routine, presents some colour flashes on the display, then gets stuck on this gray screen.

Message on the bottom left hand corner reads:

Linux mDNSResponder: Unable to parse DNS Server List. Unicast DNS-SD unavailable.
Linux powersaved (4826): Error (run 85)
Cannot access acpi\amp event file.

I tried repairing the installation to no avail. My PC is an old Compaq Prescario, 660MHz and 392K RAM. OpenSuse 10.1 installs and runs without incident on this PC.

Last edited by makaveli_0000; 01-03-2007 at 08:41 PM.
 
Old 01-04-2007, 12:22 AM   #7
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CHaps,

Nope - I did not resolve the issue with OpenSuse.

I ended up downloading Damn SMall Linux - it's only 50MB and you can run is as a live CD ROM then install later.
This is the only version of linux I could get to run and install on my machine!

I have now given up on linux and reinstalled XP...may come back to it again in the future but for now I can't be arsed with all the messing around!

Good luck.
Steve
 
Old 01-04-2007, 01:52 AM   #8
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Cjaps,
....

I have now given up on linux and reinstalled XP...may come back to it again in the future but for now I can't be arsed with all the messing around!
...
I know what you mean, it's looking like a classic nerdware problem. I just want to create a backup system, so I'm keen on the small footprint Linux offers. I need Samba to share the filesystem and my 9.1 version didn't have it. Anyone got a link for the 10.1 download?

cheers
 
Old 01-04-2007, 02:10 AM   #9
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Quote:
Hey,

I'm a total newbie to Linux installation so please respond with the least 'techie' phrases possible!

I am trying to set up Linux on my wifes old PC, a celeron 1100Mhz machine with 256MB ram and 20GB hard drive. It's got built in graphics and sound card, USB mouse and keyboard. A PCI dial up modem and PCI wireless reciever (for our broadband).

I started off with the free Fedora Core 6 disk that came with Linux Format magazine. After failing miserably I downloaded Kubuntu. I failed to get this too work then moved to Puppy Linux. I can get this to run (from the CD drive) but not install. I then read around the web and downloaded OpenSUSE 10.2.
I burned the 5 CD's today and began trying to install.
WHen installing I set the PC BIOS to look to the CD rom drive first.
It picks up the initial page OK, I select install and it drops out of the nice funky GUI to a crappy old one, OK, I can live with this. Then it runs through and starts installing. I tried firstly the KDE the GNOME (Is that right?!?) settings, both seem to install OK, but when it gets to the point where it should be asking me to insert Disk 2 - it thinks it's finished and trys to boot up the machine.
OK - so then it goes through a load of system checks and comes to a grey screne with the SUSE logo on it, there is a text box in the middle (looks like password entry window) doesn't print any characters as I type. A window opens at the bootm saying: no config for eth0
Hey...actually I was facing the exact same problem on my machine with 128 MB ram. I think it is a problem with the text-based installer (I could be wrong). On my machine too the installer seemed to think that it was complete after the CD1 was done. Now that I have upped the RAM to 512 MB the installation was absolutely flawless. And actually, the machine is not suppoed to reboot after installation from the first CD.
The reboot is only after installation is completed from all the three CDs.

Actually I am a newbie too, but I think checking the MD5SUMS would be a good idea.
 
Old 01-04-2007, 03:49 AM   #10
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Hey...actually I was facing the exact same problem on my machine with 128 MB ram. I think it is a problem with the text-based installer (I could be wrong). On my machine too the installer seemed to think that it was complete after the CD1 was done. Now that I have upped the RAM to 512 MB the installation was absolutely flawless. And actually, the machine is not suppoed to reboot after installation from the first CD.
The reboot is only after installation is completed from all the three CDs.

Actually I am a newbie too, but I think checking the MD5SUMS would be a good idea.
Thanks. That makes sense, It would explain why most people aren't having a problem. My install was also the text based one, but I had assumed it was graphics memory it was objecting to. Now I need to decide if I should buy more memory to try to install the free OS , or more disk space and stick in an old version of Windows ME or something

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Old 01-04-2007, 11:55 AM   #11
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Smile

Hey,

Back to work today and talking to a fellow Linuxer - he has had no problems with any installs on a lower spec machine than mine.
He came up with the following theorey from the 5 disk issue with OpenSuse 10.2. He reckons that it was probably all put together on a DVD originally and someone broke it up for users without a dvd drive into 5 cd roms and it is possible it hasn't been QA'd...I haven't checked but would suggest trying to install from a single DVD...

I am now back to XP (actually on this machine I am using now!) but have decided to rip an old hard drive out of my Mac G3 and try again with a double booting system (hopefully OpenSuse off a DVD!).

The thing about the memory from ecuas seems good though - I've sourced a couple of 256MB PC100 chips for 25 from some dodgy ebayer - so I'll let you know if that sorts it.

Cheers
Steve
 
Old 01-05-2007, 01:45 AM   #12
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Hey,

...

The thing about the memory from ecuas seems good though - I've sourced a couple of 256MB PC100 chips for 25 from some dodgy ebayer - so I'll let you know if that sorts it.

..
Saw a reported bug on the openSuze bug list where the same thing occurred, but the report was that (a) the 10.2 install didn't recognise the graphics card to run x-windows, so used the text install, and (b)there was a bug with the text installer.
I have 256k memory and the thing needs 96k to run x-windows, but it's an old business machine so may have an ancient graphics card. Maybe ecuas's 128k was just not enough memory so threw it into the text install and hence the bug.
If I had a DVD drive on the machine I'd try the DVD version, because the bug may not happen on that.

john

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Old 01-05-2007, 06:18 AM   #13
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Saw a reported bug on the openSuze bug list where the same thing occurred, but the report was that (a) the 10.2 install didn't recognise the graphics card to run x-windows, so used the text install, and (b)there was a bug with the text installer.
I have 256k memory and the thing needs 96k to run x-windows, but it's an old business machine so may have an ancient graphics card. Maybe ecuas's 128k was just not enough memory so threw it into the text install and hence the bug.
If I had a DVD drive on the machine I'd try the DVD version, because the bug may not happen on that.

john
I was able to install 10.2 after selecting the minimal graphic environment. GNOME or KDE will not load. My problem may also be a memory issue, although, I do not understand why 10.1 installs every time with GNOME.
 
Old 01-07-2007, 03:52 AM   #14
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Thanks for the tip, but it still didn't work. I have 256k for gawds sake, my machine at work runs XP pro on a 256K machine. I tried default everything with minimum graphics, exactly the same error happened. I may get a cheap DVD reader and try the DVD install since the premature reboot happens when it's finished reading disk 1. Since this is to be a data backup machine I may even try and get a DVD writer working, but I'm not sure I have the stamina.
 
Old 01-12-2007, 10:27 PM   #15
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possibly this will work

I had the same problem as is mentioned here--getting the error message on amount of memory, Suse 10.2 only loading cd 1 and then never asking for cd 2, and I found a possible solution. (It worked for me.)

On the initial installation screen, when you have Installation, Installation without acpi, etc., go down to the bottom where it has the single line with the function buttons you can push for help, graphical, etc. You're looking for the graphical (monitor). Mine said "Vesa" on f3. I changed that to "text". That's what made the difference (not leaving it on the graphical selection.) I made the installation selections I wanted. It took me through the cd 1 program loading. It does reboot at that point. After it did, it then came back into the graphical loading program for the cd 2 and 3. Then I got the usual make root password, user password, etc. screens.

I'm no techie, but I think what was happening is that because the graphical interface (on my computer, Vesa) was selected in the beginning, whatever changed it to the text installer (as signified with the error message) only made the text installer last until the reboot. When it came back, it tried to change back to the (broken) graphical interface (in my case, for Vesa), which resulted in that screen with the blank boxes on it. Making sure the install is set for text install in the beginning changed that. Hope that helps. Suse 10.2 is fantastic, especially the sharper fonts.
Flo

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