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Old 05-27-2010, 04:53 AM   #1
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Ok, I want to give linux a proper go!


I have a Windows 7 64 bit machine, and several external hard drives. I would like to give linux a try on one of the external hard drives, and use a boot menu option to be able to go back to Windows if needed, but still have a dedicated drive for linux. At the moment my typical use is a standard home user, mainly internet and mp3, some office work and the odd bit of coding with visual studio express. If possible I would like a windows look and feel to the desktop environment, and be able to "pimp" it a little bit, in the style of things like Windows Blinds, Object Docks etc, but primarily i just want to try linux properly to see if I can get along with it.

I am not afraid of getting into the nooks and crannies of configuring, but on the whole I would rather not, and just have a working plug and play type setup, so as long as it is stable, and I can get online thats the main thing. It seems Ubuntu & KDE might not be a bad choice, but I have no real idea how to evaluate which distro or desktop environment will be best suited to me, or if I have to do anything special with the hard drive. (I assume if I F12 to boot menu and the external HD is showing then it is bootable? I do get a message to turn one of the drives off before pressing a key to boot so maybe that is not bootable? Can you "make" a drive bootable if not?).

sorry for the rambling post, I am quite comfortable with finding an ISO file, making a boot disk and installing once I know the distro and environment to use, and anything I need to be aware of with the external disk, 4 of them are 500GB Toshiba externals, the silver ones, the other 2 are the black Carbon 1GB ones (Packard Bell? I forget...)

Well, thanks for any advice or help
 
Old 05-27-2010, 05:22 AM   #2
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You may find these helpful, to begin with:

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php?lang=en

http://www.puppylinux.org/main/index...%20Release.htm

http://ultilex.linux-bg.org/

The first is the so-called "linux chooser," while the next is a good LiveCD -- Puppy.
The third is an easily-used compilation including the Slackware-based Slax.

Give them a try!
 
Old 05-27-2010, 07:46 AM   #3
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It seems Ubuntu & KDE might not be a bad choice,
I would say that is true (although Ubuntu with KDE is called Kubuntu, that's is only semantics; you can take one Ubuntu core system and install several GUIs and chose at boot time). The Ubuntus aren't really my favourite, but they are not bad and many people like them. If that's tha kind of thing that you like Linux Mint or Mepis might be also.

I think that the best piece of advice I can give you at this stage is not to beat yourself up over getting the decision right. You'll know so much more in six months, that you'll wonder why you didn't think X, Y, and Z were questions to ask, and why you were obsessing about the wrong stuff...six months is roughly when an update will come out, so try to get the decision a bit more correct (to your taste) then.

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and be able to "pimp" it a little bit, in the style of things like Windows Blinds, Object Docks etc,
'pimpability' sounds like KDE (and KDE 4 is now marginally into a condition where it could be recommended to newbies...just), but Gnome has some kind of dock thingy that may be an attraction (do/docky).

If you were feeling really adventurous you could try Enlightenment (E17), but I guess that's more of an advanced option, at this stage (has eye candy, is lightweight, able to work reasonably well on older systems, but doesn't really wrap you in cotton wool in the way that some of the bigger systems do).

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but primarily i just want to try linux properly to see if I can get along with it.
That's a more serious requirement. If you don't get on with it, you won't persist.

To get a feel for whether you would like a system, or not (and, bare in mind that the reason that there are so many choices is that people have different preferences) is to try a Live CD. No install, it will just be a little slow.
 
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Old 05-27-2010, 08:02 AM   #4
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Just to see what the fuss is about I tried Ubuntu Lucid in a VM and IMO it's worse than ever.

Especially that crummy unprofessional-looking theme and the fact that the WM buttons are not just on the left of the titlebar, but their order was swapped around, too!

I agree that they wanted the theme to look nice, but they didn't really make the elements come together very well and it just has too much imperfections. Now I know that Linux's GUI is very customizable, but I think that the fact that the theme was custom-made for Ubuntu and comes as default really shows which way they are heading.
 
Old 05-27-2010, 06:27 PM   #5
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If you really want to cut your teeth, try sidux
 
Old 05-27-2010, 06:43 PM   #6
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And whatever you decide on doing/which distro you go with:

unless your external HDDs are firewire or eSATA please
regard the performance with some serious slack. External
USB HDDs will perform much slower than your internal
drives, so the comparison may not be fair on Linux ;}


Cheers,
Tink
 
Old 05-27-2010, 07:06 PM   #7
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^^^ Double post ^^^
 
Old 05-27-2010, 07:49 PM   #8
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^^^ Double post ^^^
clever boy!!

Next time just report it ...
 
Old 05-27-2010, 08:47 PM   #9
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Just to see what the fuss is about I tried Ubuntu Lucid in a VM and IMO it's worse than ever.

Especially that crummy unprofessional-looking theme and the fact that the WM buttons are not just on the left of the titlebar, but their order was swapped around, too!

I agree that they wanted the theme to look nice, but they didn't really make the elements come together very well and it just has too much imperfections. Now I know that Linux's GUI is very customizable, but I think that the fact that the theme was custom-made for Ubuntu and comes as default really shows which way they are heading.
Says the one who judges a distro based on the default theme.
 
  


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