LinuxQuestions.org
Support LQ: Use code LQ3 and save $3 on Domain Registration
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices

Reply
 
Search this Thread
Old 01-04-2013, 04:19 PM   #1
crypt90
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jun 2012
Location: India
Distribution: Redhat and Centos
Posts: 14

Rep: Reputation: 0
Question Observium


Hi guyz i need small favor, I am setting up an observium monitoring server for study purpose.I don't want to use snmp for data collection so I am using check_mk_agent I installed it on the linux host machine.I can see the version and stuff using telnet command.But how can I collect these info into observium as graphs. Observium wesite contains very less information for a guy like me. If sombody have a good idea about this very help full thanks . Hope I will get some help
 
Old 01-05-2013, 09:45 AM   #2
unSpawn
Moderator
 
Registered: May 2001
Posts: 27,118
Blog Entries: 54

Rep: Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785
Quote:
Originally Posted by crypt90 View Post
i need small favor,
Unless you manage the debt of a country, design self-containing nuclear power plants, perform brain surgery or code the Linux kernel for a living that doesn't constitute a "small favor" in my book. The reason for that is that you have decided to
Quote:
Originally Posted by crypt90 View Post
I don't want to use snmp for data collection
disregard the main feature that is supposed to make working with Observium easy and select the feature that is still under development. And "studying" Observium using more advanced features without getting acquainted with common usage first does not make much sense.


Quote:
Originally Posted by crypt90 View Post
Observium wesite contains very less information for a guy like me.
http://www.observium.org/wiki/Docume..._Configuration and http://www.observium.org/wiki/Unix_Agent point to several instructions, for example http://www.observium.org/wiki/Applic...L#Instructions, showing you what to drop where on which host to enable monitoring. If that doesn't work for you I suggest you get on the http://www.observium.org/wiki/Mailin...s#General_List as that's the quickest way to get an answer from Observium users.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 11:18 AM   #3
crypt90
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jun 2012
Location: India
Distribution: Redhat and Centos
Posts: 14

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
LOL xD

I was trying to do some project. Actually kind of trapped now.I was also thinking same about this.Thought maybe someone can give me some tips.Maybe have to work it out alone :P . Avoiding snmp is not a big deal its not that kind of secure and fast. if you can suggest some monitoring tools such as nagios it will be very helpful..Anyway thanks for the replay.
 
Old 01-05-2013, 02:08 PM   #4
unSpawn
Moderator
 
Registered: May 2001
Posts: 27,118
Blog Entries: 54

Rep: Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785Reputation: 2785
Quote:
Originally Posted by crypt90 View Post
Avoiding snmp is not a big deal its not that kind of secure and fast.
SNMP v3 does have security concerns. But using that as an argument to justify your choice for plain text-based TCP? Doesn't make any sense to me...


Quote:
Originally Posted by crypt90 View Post
if you can suggest some monitoring tools such as nagios it will be very helpful..
Unless you can explain in detail what is feature or purpose-wise "wrong" with Nagios it doesn't make any sense to list Icinga, OpenNMS, Pandora, WebNMS, Zabbix, Zenoss or other [0|1|2|3] network monitoring software...
 
Old 01-05-2013, 03:31 PM   #5
TB0ne
Guru
 
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Distribution: SuSE, RedHat, Slack,CentOS
Posts: 14,410

Rep: Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529
Quote:
Originally Posted by crypt90 View Post
I was trying to do some project. Actually kind of trapped now.I was also thinking same about this.Thought maybe someone can give me some tips.Maybe have to work it out alone :P
Well, if you want to ignore the well-established standards of monitoring things, then yes, you will have to do it alone.

The Observium site tells you it uses MySQL as a backend database server. If you want to use telnet, then get whatever information you want into a text file, then write a script to read it, and insert records into the database. Which is VERY pointless, since SNMP is the de-facto standard for network monitoring. SNMPv3 provides encrypted packet capabilities, which is MUCH more secure than telnet is. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simple_...ocol#Version_3
Quote:
Avoiding snmp is not a big deal its not that kind of secure and fast. if you can suggest some monitoring tools such as nagios it will be very helpful..Anyway thanks for the replay.
If you don't want to use SNMP, then it doesn't matter WHAT you use for monitoring, since it's going to be dependent on whatever scripts/programs you write. Again, using such a script to parse text data from a telnet session is pointless, since all you're doing is something not as flexible as SNMP, and not supported by anything.
 
Old 01-06-2013, 10:10 AM   #6
crypt90
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Jun 2012
Location: India
Distribution: Redhat and Centos
Posts: 14

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 0
Confused

Hi guyz thanx for lots of replays. I am not that sure about snmp security. Is it that much secure then why nagios providing there own agent nrpe for collecting data, and why sites like bijk.com asks us to install there own agents.. and i heard an alternative to snmp is collectd and is more secure. Two confused now can you provide some sites or something for better info thanks.
 
Old 01-06-2013, 12:05 PM   #7
TB0ne
Guru
 
Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Birmingham, Alabama
Distribution: SuSE, RedHat, Slack,CentOS
Posts: 14,410

Rep: Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529Reputation: 2529
Quote:
Originally Posted by crypt90 View Post
Hi guyz thanx for lots of replays. I am not that sure about snmp security. Is it that much secure then why nagios providing there own agent nrpe for collecting data, and why sites like bijk.com asks us to install there own agents.
Do you understand what SNMP is, how it works, and what the various parts of monitoring systems do?

SNMP will let a remote agent query a system, and return data based on that query. Agents are typically used to monitor processes, and other items that CANNOT be monitored with SNMP. You don't HAVE to use Nagios agents to monitor a remote system, but you'll miss alot of important data.
Quote:
and i heard an alternative to snmp is collectd and is more secure. Two confused now can you provide some sites or something for better info thanks.
Google can tell you all about collectd..start there.
http://linux.die.net/man/1/collectd

Again, if you want a COMPLETE, robust, standards-compliant monitoring system, use SNMP with any of the previously-mentioned monitoring systems. If you want to write your own using telnet (as you mentioned), then feel free.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:08 AM.

Main Menu
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration