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sayhello_to_the_world 12-10-2013 11:11 AM

Nvidia and the patches for Linux-upgraders
 
dear friends

well i earlier had tons of issues with Nvidia

And now i am rigth in front of the upgrade process from Suselinux 12.3 to 13.1

i heard of a patch and a HowTo that also will fit the needs and conditions of Opensuse

see here: http://linuxsysconfig.com/2013/11/nv...newer-kernels/

Well one question though;

what can ido with this patch!? When should i do the installation of this patch?

TB0ne 12-10-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by sayhello_to_the_world (Post 5078475)
dear friends
well i earlier had tons of issues with Nvidia And now i am rigth in front of the upgrade process from Suselinux 12.3 to 13.1 i heard of a patch and a HowTo that also will fit the needs and conditions of Opensuse

I've been using nVidia cards since openSUSE 9.x, and have NEVER had a problem installing or using the official drivers from nVidia's website. You don't say anything about what issues you had/have, so there's little we can tell you.
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see here: http://linuxsysconfig.com/2013/11/nv...newer-kernels/

Well one question though; what can ido with this patch!? When should i do the installation of this patch?
I'd suggest actually READING that page....try the parts that explicitly TELL YOU what to type in. It even tells you what wget commands to run, and what shell scripts/commands to type in. Doesn't get much more clear than that...what are you having a problem with?

Germany_chris 12-10-2013 03:30 PM

While not on SUSE the nVidia 312 and 331 drivers crunched my system. 312 in both beta and production ceased to function, 331 sent the laptop into convulsions. I'm all kinds of done with nVidia drivers for the time being I'll generally pass on nVidia drivers the OS drivers do what I need them to and are stable.

TB0ne 12-10-2013 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 5078596)
While not on SUSE the nVidia 312 and 331 drivers crunched my system. 312 in both beta and production ceased to function, 331 sent the laptop into convulsions. I'm all kinds of done with nVidia drivers for the time being I'll generally pass on nVidia drivers the OS drivers do what I need them to and are stable.

I'm using 319 on my GEforce equipped Vaio laptop now, and haven't had a single issue. All the eye-candy is enabled, and I get great 3D speed as well. That said, I have NEVER used the pre-built driver from nVidia, but have always compiled it for my system. A BIT of a pain when the kernel gets upgraded, since you have to remember to re-build the driver before things work correctly, but its never been a huge issue. Just re-run the .run file from runlevel 3, press enter a couple times, and it works.

John VV 12-10-2013 03:36 PM

are you using the nvidia "one click" install from novell ?
or the best way
the suse "the hard way" that is NOT hard

SUSE ships with the nouveau driver
you have to blacklist it or remove it
and rebuild the boot image to use the nvidia.run

or
open yast2 and use the suse G?( whatever) nvidia driver in the repos

please READ the suse wiki page
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_drivers

I use "the hard ( easy ) way "
http://en.opensuse.org/SDB:NVIDIA_the_hard_way

I have used the nvidia.run 90% of the time for the last 8 years
( kmod-nvidia.rpm sometimes to check things )

I NEVER liked the idea of the "one click"
you NEVER learn how to install and configure something
-- i just continues the MS "point and click " drone mentality

The "repo way" is normally recommended for most users

Germany_chris 12-10-2013 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TB0ne (Post 5078599)
I'm using 319 on my GEforce equipped Vaio laptop now, and haven't had a single issue. All the eye-candy is enabled, and I get great 3D speed as well. That said, I have NEVER used the pre-built driver from nVidia, but have always compiled it for my system. A BIT of a pain when the kernel gets upgraded, since you have to remember to re-build the driver before things work correctly, but its never been a huge issue. Just re-run the .run file from runlevel 3, press enter a couple times, and it works.

I've been pondering that, but the short answer is kernel updates happen to fast for me to want to worry every time a new updates flow downstream. There are a couple users on the AUR that build a custom pair but....

John VV 12-10-2013 03:54 PM

not 100% suse related ( mostly) but there can be a lag in time from the kernel being updated and the OS pre-built driver

i ran into this WAY WAY WAY TOO MANY TIMES on Fedora
the kernel will get updated then in THREE OR FOUR DAYS the matching kmod-nvidia is finally updated

a few days of NO DRIVER or downgrading a kernel until the matching driver is ready

-- that is TOO BIG OF A HASSLE

rebuilding the nvidia.run in a text only boot after a kernel update takes less than one minute
and very little typing

1) during boot ad a "3 " to the end of the NEW kernel boot line in suse grub2
2) type in "root" then the root password
( you did make a separate root user account with it's own root password ????? )
3) get into the habit of saving the NEW .run to /
4)type - cd /
5)type - sh *.run
6) for default say "yes" to everything
7) type - reboot

TB0ne 12-11-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Germany_chris (Post 5078605)
I've been pondering that, but the short answer is kernel updates happen to fast for me to want to worry every time a new updates flow downstream. There are a couple users on the AUR that build a custom pair but....

Really?? I can only think of three times in the past YEAR that I had to rebuild my nVidia drivers....and seeing as it only took about two minutes, and I got stability and good performance out of it, it's a small price to pay.

Each to their own...

Germany_chris 12-11-2013 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TB0ne (Post 5079102)
Really?? I can only think of three times in the past YEAR that I had to rebuild my nVidia drivers....and seeing as it only took about two minutes, and I got stability and good performance out of it, it's a small price to pay.

Each to their own...

I've had 3 nVidia drivers in the last 3 weeks and 331 point iteration that happened this morning fixed it again..It's been a really long time since I've problems with nVidia drivers so I guess I'm due but jeezzz


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