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fif 02-01-2005 03:26 PM

ntfs partition no more visible from windows after linux install
 
Hi all,
I have been installing linux twice (Mdk, Suse) on a XP system and had twice the same pb. I lost visibility on a non bootable partition from windows.

Initial configuration is the following:
1st hd - two partitions, FAT32 and NTFS
2nd hd - one NTFS partition and free space

I let the installer partition the disk for install on the second disk. Once installation is done, everything works fine with linux. But I can't access the NTFS partition on the second disk from windows anymore :confused: XP states that this partition is MBR and needs to be formated :mad:

Running cfdisk does not show anything weird. Types seems correct but as far as I can tell.

First time I had the problem, I tried to fix the boot sector with the windows console ... but it ended in a big mess, a reformat and restore of the files :D

Does anyone have a clue?

Thanks for the help

PS: may be it is more a windows issue but I really want to go for linux - hope this will give me some credit
:rolleyes:

JrLz 02-01-2005 08:15 PM

can you give some details of your fdisk/cfdisk result?
can you mount the partition from Linux?

fif 02-02-2005 12:35 PM

yes I can mount the partition from linux. This is how I retrieved windows data I had not backuped yet.
outcome of fdisk/cfdisk is the following - sorry it is in french :study: )
Amorce = boot
Début = Begin
Fin = End
tete = head
Aucun = none
libre = free
I guess that the other terms are undestandable for english spoken people.

Code:

fdisk -l

Disque /dev/hda: 20.5 Go, 20525137920 octets
255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 2495 cylindres
Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets

Périphérique Amorce    Début        Fin      Blocs    Id  Système
/dev/hda1  *          1        638    5124703+  7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hda2            639        2495    14916352+  f  W95 Etendu (LBA)
/dev/hda5            639        1913    10241406    b  W95 FAT32

Disque /dev/hdb: 163.9 Go, 163928604672 octets
255 têtes, 63 secteurs/piste, 19929 cylindres
Unités = cylindres de 16065 * 512 = 8225280 octets

Périphérique Amorce    Début        Fin      Blocs    Id  Système
/dev/hdb1              1      16708  134206978+  7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/hdb2          16709      16838    1044225  82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/hdb3          16839      19928    24820425  83  Linux

cfdisk gives similar display, except that it mentions that hdb1 has a label (no clear text : "[^O]" without the quotes)
I add a print of the partition table in raw format and in sector order format (no idea if this is useful to put both :confused: )

raw print (pr command)
Code:

Table de partitions de /dev/hda

        --- Début  ---      ---- Fin  ----    Début    Numéro de
 # Fan.  Tête Sect Cyl  ID  Tête Sect Cyl    Secteur  Secteurs
-- ----- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----------- -----------
 1  0x80    1    1    0 0x07  254  63  637          63    10249407
 2  0x00    0    1  638 0x0F  254  63 1023    10249470    29832705
 3  0x00    0    0    0 0x00    0    0    0          0          0
 4  0x00    0    0    0 0x00    0    0    0          0          0
 5  0x00    1    1  638 0x0B  254  63 1023          63    20482812
Table de partitions de /dev/hdb

        --- Début  ---      ---- Fin  ----    Début    Numéro de
 # Fan.  Tête Sect Cyl  ID  Tête Sect Cyl    Secteur  Secteurs
-- ----- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ---- ----------- -----------
 1  0x00    1    1    0 0x07  254  63 1023          63  268413957
 2  0x00  254  63 1023 0x82  254  63 1023  268414020    2088450
 3  0x00  254  63 1023 0x83  254  63 1023  270502470    49640850
 4  0x00    0    0    0 0x00    0    0    0          0          0

sector order print (ps command)
Code:

Table de partitions de /dev/hda

              Premier    Dernier
 # Type      Secteur    Secteur  Offset    Longueur Sys.FichierType (ID) Fanions
-- ------- ----------- ----------- ------ ----------- -------------------- ----
 1 Primair          0    10249469    63    10249470 HPFS/NTFS (07)      Amorce
 2 Primair    10249470    40082174      0    29832705 W95 Ext'd (LBA) (0F) Aucun
 5 Logique    10249470    30732344    63    20482875 W95 FAT32 (0B)      Aucun
  Logique    30732345    40082174      0    9349830 Espace libre        Aucun
Table de partitions de /dev/hdb

              Premier    Dernier
 # Type      Secteur    Secteur  Offset    Longueur Sys.FichierType (ID) Fanions
-- ------- ----------- ----------- ------ ----------- -------------------- ----
 1 Primair          0  268414019    63  268414020 HPFS/NTFS (07)      Aucun
 2 Primair  268414020  270502469      0    2088450 Linux swap / So (82) Aucun
 3 Primair  270502470  320143319      0    49640850 Linux (83)          Aucun
  Pri/Log  320143320  320159384      0      16065 Espace libre        Aucun

I can't see anything weird. What has changed that causes XP to see a bootable partion where linux doesn't see any??

fif 02-03-2005 01:46 PM

Last action was too check with XP console utility diskpart. No more hope, windows does simply not recognize my partition. Reformat is threatening :p
What surprises me is that I seem to be rather alone to have the problem. May be related to my configuration and/or NTFS? Did anyone experience something similar or at least have an opinion about it?

JrLz 05-18-2005 01:12 AM

You could mount it & bckup? it should be ok then....
are you sure your XP didn't recognize it?
try to see it from Computer Management Console
Start --> Run --> compmgmt.msc....
you should find the storage section....
and find partitions there.........
try to find your missing partition there, try to change its drive letters
hope it works....


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