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Old 10-16-2016, 09:37 PM   #16
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The thread keeps going, our OP is long gone?
 
Old 10-17-2016, 08:15 AM   #17
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My apologies if you thought I was in any way criticising your response. From the Op's original post I reckoned that a simple answer was what was required; "use the package manager". Compiling from source is obviously also a valid answer but maybe a bit more scary from the Op's point of view?

Having read quite a few Newbie questions over the years I note that some of the answers given can be a bit off putting to someone who doesn't know much about Linux and is just starting out.

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It can sometimes be difficult judging what level of response you should give, I try to give what I feel is the uncomplicated answer. So saying, I have to smile at some "Newbie" questions as whoever is asking the question is assuming they know very little while in my estimation they're just a couple of points off being a rocket scientist!

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he is a newbe he is still in a pair of window diapers. Handle gently or he might freak out and have a mental break down.

well as far as this Idealistic thought:

I came from windows therefore, "I have no idea how to operate any other Operating System" mentality that most people seem to put themselves in to, or Windows is just turning people that use it into a bunch of big insecure dummies.

It seems that when it comes to Linux/GNU people place themselves into a state of paranoia for no real good reason.

Windows too has a terminal. it is called a dos prompt. Windows just hides it more now days, I suppose. Windows 3.1 days install with floppy's well...
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our Windows file system is located at /mnt/c in the Bash shell environment. Use the same Linux terminal commands you'd use to get around. If you're used to the standard Windows Command Prompt with its DOS commands, here are a few basic commands on both Bash and Windows: Change Directory: cd in Bash, cd or chdir in DOS.
I guess it just bothers me what people do to themselves, especially when it comes to learning something new. ie Linux/GNU

it is not as hard to learn to use as the social stigma must be "saying" about it to make people go into a state of paranoia whenever they hear that word, Linux.

one must forget that before using Windows they had no idea how to. they had to do the very same thing one needs to do with Linux, learn how to install it, and install other programs on it, and how to use Windows in general.

if one can learn how to use Windows then it is no harder to learn how to use Linux/GNU.

if you want to hack on it an customize it, just like Windows, you have to learn how to deal with their configure files. in Windows they are called the ini files (if I remember correctly).

to tell someone about anything that this is what you need to know, leaving out all of the options, one you're taking away from that person, and taking for granted their IQ status.

yeah sure I may have over stepped the boundaries a bit. But I was not wrong in what I said, that their is more then one way to install a program (package) in Linux as apposed to Windows. People like to know tier options, I believe, so why limit them?

telling someone to just open up their terminal and if they have no idea of what that is, then what does that do to their brain?

hopefully it stimulates it and causes it to ask questions like, what the hell is a terminal?

he or she has to start learning sometime. that is the start of learning is it not? the question, that is.

give them something to think about, let them stimulate their brains, learn how to think for themselves and sometime just give them the answers, as long as they learn is that not all that matters?

and yes I have a cocky attitude sometimes. people are becoming to "politically correct", be compliant to how "we" say you have to be or suffer the consequences ... but that is a whole different subject.


I have been using Linux/GNU for years now and I am still a NewBe it all depends on what part of Linux/GNU we are talking about. or what application because Linux/GNU has a vast amount of applications that can do a vast amount of things on it.

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Old 10-18-2016, 10:39 AM   #18
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I have been using Linux/GNU for years now and I am still a NewBe it all depends on what part of Linux/GNU we are talking about. or what application because Linux/GNU has a vast amount of applications that can do a vast amount of things on it.
Misplaced modesty such as this is why the "linux-newbie" thread is cluttered with clearly non-newbie and sometimes highly technical questions.
 
Old 10-18-2016, 10:53 AM   #19
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The thread keeps going, our OP is long gone?
Yeah. The site is cluttered with single post Original Poster types who ask questions like, I'm a newbie. I have Windows 10 but I want to try Linux. What is the best one to install?. These get a zillion responses from people needlessly fighting over distros, and never hear back from the OP. I speculate that some of these threads are generated by scripts written by proprietary programmers in their spare time for laughs.

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Old 10-18-2016, 11:10 AM   #20
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Old 10-18-2016, 10:50 PM   #21
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Thumbs down ZRT instead?

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The thread keeps going, our OP is long gone?
I feel 'bad' for the >3day-old ZRT, that *I* unfortunately have no answer for
(even after I try web-searching, tho I have zero knowledge about their topic)
because I'm still a relative-Newbie/inexperienced.

btw, (yes, off=topic) is there any 'one-click' way to 'subscribe' to threads?
My Internet is so slow, plus my old XP-netbook, that going to the [next]
'Subscribe to thread' page, the back two pages, takes like 10seconds.
Subscribing to Threads that I at least partly understand, helps me learn.
 
  


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