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Old 02-27-2015, 10:22 AM   #1
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Not Enough Memory Msg when install'g Mint or Deepin


Hi Y'all,
Greetings from Snowy NC.

First post with first Linux issue.
Attempting to load Linux .iso distros (both dnlds and commercial (from mags & bought sampler cd pkg online) to see which one I want to go with.
My ACER M3011 desktop athlon 64 x2 w/2GB Mem, dsk =320GB had Vista but I can't restore any longer so I'll go Linux.
After much online research dnlded & installed Zorin Lite w/o issues. However, when attempting to boot 32bit or 64 bit versions of MINT 17.1 or DEEPIN 14.2, recvd NOT ENOUGH MEMORY FOR IMAGE msg. Installed 4 more GB ( the BIOS sees it; total 6). Same NOT ENOUGH MEMORY msg. I have searched all the threads for similar issues w/o finding any. I would appreciate suggestions on where to start.
Thank you, Robert Hall

UPDATE;; After finding suggestions on other forums have tried the trick of adding the mem=1024m, and mem=1G, and mem=4G
during the boot process. Get a whole bunch further into the kernal boot now, but always hangs at the "[7.360454] random:
nonblocking pool is initialized" line.
TIA
RH

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Old 02-27-2015, 10:40 PM   #2
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Hello and welcome to LQ.

A few ideas.

One is to run memtest and be sure to make notice of what amount of memory it says. Then let it run test for maybe 25 minutes.

Two is unlikely bios setting for limit ram. Usually only old servers have that.

Three is it may be possible that you somehow assigned a lot of video ram. Again unlikely.

Some other bios issue.

A possible fix if all above fails then http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ge-4175505312/

http://www.elivecd.org/faq/error-boo...ecified-image/

Kernel parameters. Not normally needed.
 
Old 02-28-2015, 03:44 PM   #3
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Hi,
Thnk U for your ideas. I have played with the mem size parameters and the ramdisk size parameter; no joy so far. The memtest reports 5.87GB so have used numbers in and around that number. I am cking other distros to see how far the boot gets. Puppy and Zorin are OK. DSL will not go into a full boot but at least it doesn't hang or die.; I will report back when I have more useful info. Thanks again.
rh
 
Old 02-28-2015, 05:23 PM   #4
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"athlon 64 x2 w/2GB Mem,"

and

"memtest reports 5.87GB "

It does not compute.
 
Old 02-28-2015, 06:17 PM   #5
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Did your desktop come with a motherboard book?
If you can't find or don't have your mobo book let me know. I'll look for the PDF and see if it's available online.

Look in the mobo book it should tell you if the RAM is expandable.
If so, you could purchase and install 1 or 2 more sticks of RAM.

You could try shrinking your Zorin partition and that will give you some free space to work with and may be enough space to dual boot with another distribution.
 
Old 02-28-2015, 08:05 PM   #6
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@jefro
Quote:
"athlon 64 x2 w/2GB Mem,"

and

"memtest reports 5.87GB "
The Op says in his post that the original spec was
Quote:
"athlon 64 x2 w/2GB Mem,"
He then says
Quote:
Installed 4 more GB ( the BIOS sees it; total 6). Same NOT ENOUGH MEMORY msg.
so it should compute, surely.
@Ztcoracat
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Look in the mobo book it should tell you if the RAM is expandable.
If so, you could purchase and install 1 or 2 more sticks of RAM.
As above. he's expanded it from 2Gb to 6Gb.

I'd have thought 6Gb would have been enough for most distros with memory to spare.

Have you tried Mint or Ubuntu live DVDs? May be worth a shot?

Play Bonny!

 
Old 02-28-2015, 09:36 PM   #7
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Opps! Does compute.

Wonder if full memory isn't settled by the time kernel needs to load.

System seems to be reporting to init that it doesn't have enough ram.

Wonder if ram speeds are off. Voltages too far off. Ram controller too slow to post(unlikely)


Try setting bios settings to fail safe or default maybe?? Was this overclocked?

Try a netinstall cd and see if you get to installer.

Every link I read has the boot time option. append "mem=4G"
- hit return comment or what to get your limit.

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Old 03-01-2015, 07:00 AM   #8
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Since this is a new installation... could it be the install is attempting to create a new partition and can't as it is full?
 
Old 03-01-2015, 08:38 PM   #9
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Quote:
Wonder if ram speeds are off. Voltages too far off. Ram controller too slow to post(unlikely)
If they are I'm not sure how to test.

This article may be of some use.
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ram-spe...ing-xmp-watch/

Running Memtest overnight might be a good thing if the RAM is on it's way out-
http://www.memtest.org/
http://www.binarytides.com/linux-com...-memory-usage/

Try this cmd; it should show all of the RAM.
grep -i --color memtotal /proc/meminfo

Running free -m would confirm that there isn't any more RAM avail and if that's the case w/o running Memtest you won't know if the RAM is bad.

Quote:
Since this is a new installation... could it be the install is attempting to create a new partition and can't as it is full?
That's a possibility:-

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Old 03-05-2015, 10:03 PM   #10
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Hi from NC,
I want to thank everyone for all the suggestions to a solution to my "out of memory" Linux issue. Since visiting last, other computer issues have jumped up to stop my Linux effort. I'll return to the distros as soon as I can. I can tell you that Lunbunto loaded up and ran ok before I had catastrophic hardware (disk) issues.
Thanks again.
robert hall
 
  


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